[Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

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[Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Crispy! » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:05 pm

Stephen Lucas wrote:I have been given the word that as the new Artics are pressed into service they will replace the MAN SG280's which will ultimately then replace the rigid Mercedes fleet. Eventually the 'Rail Sub' fleet will be made up of predominantly articulated vehicles.

Some of the rigids have already been retired and are awaiting their disposal. 507, 509, 510 & 511 to name a few.

2368 is being cannibalised and will no longer see active service.


Is 505 still in service? 588 in the graveyard nooooooo!
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:20 pm

2239 was involved in an accident with a ute today on Bridge Rd, Para Hills. The bus sustained reasonable damage:

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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:41 am

Stephen Lucas wrote:I have been given the word that as the new Artics are pressed into service they will replace the MAN SG280's which will ultimately then replace the rigid Mercedes fleet. Eventually the 'Rail Sub' fleet will be made up of predominantly articulated vehicles.

Some of the rigids have already been retired and are awaiting their disposal. 507, 509, 510 & 511 to name a few.


R565 seems to have vanished into thin air as well recently. This thing was unbelievably loud at speed.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Stephen Lucas » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:30 am

TA3001 wrote:R565 seems to have vanished into thin air as well recently. This thing was unbelievably loud at speed.


Crispy! wrote:Is 505 still in service? 588 in the graveyard nooooooo!


Both of these buses seem to hame met their maker but I am a little unsure about 565. Like I said I will endeavour to compile a list of the buses that have actually been withdrawn recently. 2362 is currently in the rail yard also, not sure what it is doing there.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby route 228 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:15 am

Southlinks Midis 2110 and 2112 Still shown in fleetlists as Lonsdale are either on loan to Elizabeth or these 2 have returned to there old home i have seen these 2 a lot over the last couple of weeks at Elizabeth shopping centre with Elizabeth Depot run Numbers.

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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Greasyrhys » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:01 am

I've also spotted 2109 a few times in the past week or so. Just hope that they are not going to be permanently based up north. Can't see 2106-08 and 2111 following suit.

Also I don't see 2568-70 and 2572-74 up north much, despite being based at Elizabeth. Would be dumb of Southlink if they swapped Elizabeth Scanias for Lonsdale 'midis'.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Eurostar » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:16 am

Eagle Eye wrote:2239 was involved in an accident with a ute today on Bridge Rd, Para Hills. The bus sustained reasonable damage:


I hope it gets back in service soon, I love the MAN NL202 buses.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:23 pm

Just saw tram 351 on a low loader turning from Addison Rd onto Grand Junction Rd at Pennington, heading east. Wonder where it's headed for?
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:59 pm

2554 covered the 1530 ex Mawson GA4 trip today, not sure why this occurred, presumably due to another Merc breakdown...
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby DanC » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:25 pm

So what are the oldest buses going "round at the moment?

Obviously the rail subs and sl200's....

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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby LowRider » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:27 pm

DanC wrote:So what are the oldest buses going "round at the moment?

Obviously the rail subs and sl200's....

Dan.


No SL200's. They were retired ages ago and all long gone from service!
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Muttley » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 pm

LowRider wrote:No SL200's. They were retired ages ago and all long gone from service!

Including the ex Melbourne units?
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:26 pm

The ex-Melbourne ones are still in service (except 1358), but were built in 89/90, and are not the oldest buses in AdMet service.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Stephen Lucas » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:41 am

Here is some updated info for you from previous posts:

565 is still in service.
As for the placement of the Midi's I believe this to be permanent :cry: I hate them. They are used alot on the Gawler services, but venture onto other runs often enough.

As for the Scania's they just seem to float between Elizabeth and Lonsdale. Each depot only really asks for it's bus back when it is required for a service. The artics are in the same category, sometimes in the morning there could be 3 or 4 2800's @ Elizabeth sometimes none or only one! At present we don't seem to have any Lonsdale artics at Elizabeth.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Greasyrhys » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:38 pm

Sadly, 'midi' 2111 was just spotted doing a 405 service at Salisbury. Not good indeed. :x
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Willie » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:28 pm

Seriously, it's a bus and it carries passengers, I'd rather see it on suburban feeders services than peak city services.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby LowRider » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:53 pm

Greasyrhys wrote:Sadly, 'midi' 2111 was just spotted doing a 405 service at Salisbury. Not good indeed. :x


Its an airconditioned low floor bus, whats the problem? I really don't get it, especially since your profile claims you like "Jumbos". They are old, smelly, dirty horrible old things!
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby H380 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:05 pm

Tram H351 seen at Islington Workshops being moved around the yard this morning.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby runawaybus » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:18 pm

And being refurbished by Bluebird Rail for some big special event for this year for some strange reason- that's as far as I have heard.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby The Phonj » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:51 am

While on The Parade yesterday, I noticed that stops 18, 17B, 14, 13 and 11 on the up have had their "Smart Stop" equipment removed and replaced with standard bus stops.

The remainder of the stops on The Parade: stops 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 and 5 on the up and stops 9 and 10 on the down have had the equipment turned off, yet remain in-situ.

City stops and those on Henley Beach Rd have not been affected at this stage, and continue to operate normally.

The beginning of the end of the "Smart Stops" is here; and I wonder with the removal of the requirement to have a "RTPIS" bus on these routes; will they still nominally be guaranteed access routes??
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:03 am

The Phonj wrote:The beginning of the end of the "Smart Stops" is here; and I wonder with the removal of the requirement to have a "RTPIS" bus on these routes; will they still nominally be guaranteed access routes??

The old Metroguides used to list Henley Beach Road/The Parade routes as fully accessible services (along with 99B, 99C, MA1, MA2 and possibly a few others), since the death of the Metroguide, has any reference been published to these routes being fully accessible? I can't think of any.....
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby runawaybus » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:34 am

@ Eagle Eye.

There is no publication which lists the Wheelchair accessible bus routes and yes there was an updated yearly (when the Metroguide was printed) as to how much % of buses were wheelchair accessible.

I happen to guess that for some reason the Government doesn't even want to publicise which routes are guaranteed wheelchair access and somehow that applies to all of PT lack of publicity.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:50 am

The Torrens Transit website lists all of the HB Rd/ Parade services as fully accessible.
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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby Stephen Lucas » Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:40 pm

LowRider wrote:
Greasyrhys wrote:Sadly, 'midi' 2111 was just spotted doing a 405 service at Salisbury. Not good indeed. :x


Its an airconditioned low floor bus, whats the problem? I really don't get it, especially since your profile claims you like "Jumbos". They are old, smelly, dirty horrible old things!


They are ok for passengers but to drive they are damn awful things. Designed by people on drugs, because no normal person would have designed a thing like that.

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Re: [Jan 2012] SA Transport observations

Postby LowRider » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:17 pm

Stephen Lucas wrote:
They are ok for passengers but to drive they are damn awful things. Designed by people on drugs, because no normal person would have designed a thing like that.

My opinion anyway.


haha yeah thats what I meant. I sure don't fit in them, I'm far too tall compared to the midget they envisaged would drive one.
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