The Random Admet Question Thread

[Willie]

I am sure its 1620 and 1621 only with the differing seat set up.

[SL200- 1880]

Thats what I thought, just wasnt sure on 1619. I should of known, as Ive been on those buses lots of times, lol. Thanks Will.

[The Phonj]

1620 and 1621 have had this seating arrangement since new. It was probably an experiment by the STA; possibly with the aim of reducing graffiti and vandalism at the back of the bus. Memory recalls there being a mirror at the back of the bus; facing into the open seating area.

[Falcon49]

You are right about trying to reduce grafitti. It was called "community seating". Everyone could see everyone else and hopefully reduce the amount of grafitti.

[SL200- 1880]

1620 and 1621 have had this seating arrangement since new. It was probably an experiment by the STA; possibly with the aim of reducing graffiti and vandalism at the back of the bus. Memory recalls there being a mirror at the back of the bus; facing into the open seating area.

Yes, i believe there was mirror for that.

[STA 1440]

Has anyone seen Southlink 18.280 2716 since that fire a while back?

[torrens117]

My cousin has asked me a question Im hoping someone on this forum will be able to answer.

For the past few weeks, with every 224F he catches in PM peak from the city, when it gets to Salisbury Interchange, the driver tells everyone to transfer to another bus which is empty and also displays 224F which continues to Elizabeth. The original 224F changes to Not in Service and leaves.

Why doesn't the original 224F go all the way to Elizabeth?

[Willie]

its a double division provided during the rail shutdown, there should however being a connecting service ( the timetabled service) to allow passengers to continue their journey, it was probably caught in traffic and the first bus advised he had ' dropped and gone'

[Eagle Eye]

SouthLink don't use a '224F Salisbury Interchange' desto, so look out for a supp board in the front window saying 'Salisbury Interchange Only'.

[DanC]

Out of curiousity. Which Train/Bus interchange is the largest?? I thought maybe TTP and/or Salisbury.

Dan.

[howlerbus]

Marion Centre is quite big as well...

[Eagle Eye]

Largest or busiest?
In my opinion, TTP and Paradise would have to be the busiest, closely followed by Marion. Don't discount Noarlunga Centre in peak times.
Size-wise, probably Marion or Salisbury but Salisbury Centre (technically an interchange) would take the prize as the largest. TTP and Paradise would be close.

And a dark horse for the busiest interchange, Mawson Interchange has (technically) seen a huge amount of transfers over the last 4 months!

[Onthe178]

Busiest is definitely Paradise, with over 40 routes terminating or passing through there.

[Eagle Eye]

If you wanted to break it down even further, 'busiest' could be treated as the most number of buses physically in (using) the interchange at any given time, or an overall number using the interchange in say 24 hours.
Or 'busiest' could mean the number of buses that actually service the interchange, and the number of pax that board/alight there. For example, PBI has many express buses passing through there, especially in morning peak, so you could argue either way that Paradise is 'busy' at various times.

All depends on the definition of 'busy' from the original question.

[TheLondoner]

Hi all just a couple of questions.

(1) Just wondering as a recently returned o-bahn user why a number of o-bahn equipped vehicles now seem to struggle on the climb between Paradise and Tea Tree Plaza approaching Hope Valley reservoir. Maybe my memory serves me wrong, but I'm sure they use to be able to maintain a decent speed. It doesn't seem to happen all the time, but certainly the Merc's and the odd Scania Artic seem to have a hard time, especially when pulling a full C2X or G40?

(2) Is the decision to operate rigid or artic vehicles route specific. I ask because the am 548 between Golden Grove/City/TAFE Marleston always seems to be a rigid vehicle and by the time it leaves TTP it often is standing room only and still has to try and pack passengers in by the time it reaches Klemzig (where there always seem to be queues???). In the mean time the G40 Golden Grove/City/Flinders Uni whch runs 5 mins behind is always an artic as are a number of expresses from Paradise and quite often they appear to have seats spare? I don't mind too much as I get on quite early, but its fun trying to get off in North Terrace before the driver wants to take off.

(3) Sorry my last rant. Its interesting how many people insist on during the pm peak to travel on the J1 between Grenfell Street and Klemzig/Paradise instead of using the myriad of other services operating the same route (503, 504, 506, 507, 521, 546, 556, 578, 558, T500, T501). Maybe its the location of the stop outside City X and/or lack of direction to the other routes, but often the J1 is full by the time it has crawled down Frome Street to the RAH, while many of the others sail down Grenfell Street with seats aplenty, only to see the J1 spill out its packed load at Paradise.

[bigrobbo]

(3) Sorry my last rant. Its interesting how many people insist on during the pm peak to travel on the J1 between Grenfell Street and Klemzig/Paradise instead of using the myriad of other services operating the same route (503, 504, 506, 507, 521, 546, 556, 578, 558, T500, T501). Maybe its the location of the stop outside City X and/or lack of direction to the other routes, but often the J1 is full by the time it has crawled down Frome Street to the RAH, while many of the others sail down Grenfell Street with seats aplenty, only to see the J1 spill out its packed load at Paradise.

In my opinion, most O-Bahn users know that a J1, J1G, J1T, J2, J2G, M44 and M44T go up the O-Bahn track to TTP and stop at Klemzig and Paradise.

With this knowledge, they just catch these services. They are unsure which other services stop along the way, how far they go before they go off the track etc etc.

And as most of these services only operate in peak hour, it is just as easy for these people to stick to the services they know will stop where they want to get off.

[Eagle Eye]

That's not my quote bigrobbo!

(1) The O-Bahn's big hill

Buses always struggle going up the hill at Holden Hill. It's a long and gradual climb and you get limited run-up because it's right after Paradise. A full bus is hard to get moving at the best of times, let alone when crawling up a hill! Most O-Bahn buses have a similar amount of horsepower, but Scanias take the hill on a bit better than Mercs IMO.

(2) Rigids/artics route specific?

Short answer: no. What may be a seemingly quiet route may get an artic because the next run on that shift may be a higher-pulling route, such as a J1 or M44. Last minute changes and bus availability may mean a different type of bus than usual does a particular run. Unless a specific type of bus is banned in a certain location (such as artics in a small street with tight corners or gas buses on Kalyra Road) then any bus can be used on any route, generally.

(3) 500-series vs other O-Bahn routes

Pax who have been catching the O-Bahn for years know where all of the 500-series routes go. Since the J1 and M44 have been brought in, they have been the dominant O-Bahn routes, and virtually the only routes on the track at nights and weekends. Therefore when 500s start servicing the City in peak hour, people don't know where they go because they never see those routes. I think the most simple system for pax was when all 540s went to TTP; and 500s, 550s and 570s went to Paradise on the track. Now we have Klemzig buses, Goodwood Road buses, Marion Road buses, JetBuses, regular express buses, buses changing route numbers at Paradise and C1 and J1T to replace the simple 540 and 540T. Unless you are a regular bus user who knows a bit about the system, it's quite hard to understand when you look at it for the first time. People are told to catch a J1, J2 or M44 to the Plaza or Paradise, and that's all they'll catch.

[bigrobbo]

That's not my quote bigrobbo!

How did that happen??????????

Sorry mate!

[DanC]

While riding on the Noarlunga line today I was checking out each railway station on the way to Oaklands. A couple of questions i'd like to ask. Apart from the present stations Goodwood, Woodlands Park and Ascot Park. What other stations on that line had subway underpasses from days gone by? It seems like Edwardstown wouldve had one. I remember reading somewhere that E-Town also had a goods yard. Is that right?

When did the ticket booth at Woodlands Park close?? A major peeve of mine about Adelaide bus/tram/train stations is lack of kiosks.

Also I very much enjoyed the Marion station. Loved the overpass structure there! I think thats the only one apart from Lonsdale. Yes??

Dan.

[Eagle Eye]

Also I very much enjoyed the Marion station. Loved the overpass structure there! I think thats the only one apart from Lonsdale. Yes??

Dan.

Not quite. Also Mawson Lakes, Keswick, Blackwood, Hallett Cove and Noarlunga Centre.

[The Phonj]

I remember Edwardstown having a subway; from memory it was a large concrete cylindrical structure. I believe the Goods yard at Edwardstown was located on teh South Road side of the railway line.

The old Oaklands station had a subway which remained open until it's closure and demolition.

Further along the line, Warradale, Brighton, Marino and Hallett Cove Beach all have subways.

Alberton also has an overpass structure.

[DanC]

I remember Edwardstown having a subway; from memory it was a large concrete cylindrical structure. I believe the Goods yard at Edwardstown was located on teh South Road side of the railway line.

The old Oaklands station had a subway which remained open until it's closure and demolition.

Further along the line, Warradale, Brighton, Marino and Hallett Cove Beach all have subways.

Alberton also has an overpass structure.

Thank you for that Phonj! Must travel further on than Oaklands station next time to check them out.

Does anyone have any old and new photos of stations around Adelaide on a photo sharing site somewhere? Be good to compare them.

Dan.

[witsend]

Woodlands Park, Ascot Park also have subways.

[Eagle Eye]

Does anyone know where Seaford (bus) Depot is? Is it near the future Seaford train depot?
I can't find it anywhere on BA, Google, SouthLink or anything online!

(If the location can't be published for security reasons, could someone please PM me? Thanks)

[Emm Kay Vee]

It's on Dungeys Rd in Seaford.

I was trying to locate it a while ago and there was some conjecture over the name of the road.