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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:06 am

hillsbus wrote:Good points TT but I'd presume it has to be the 14th so it ties in with the start of school term time driver rosters. Keep an eye on the AdMet site in the next day or two I'd say...

Generally new timetables don't come out until about 2 weeks before-so it could be Friday(Monday being a holiday) or possibly Tuesday. I would image drivers will find out at their respective depots of the changes in the next couple of days.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Eurostar » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:40 pm

The new Saints Road Shopping Centre in Salisbury Plains is due to open around summer time, many speciality stores and Foodland. Adelaide Metro and Southlink should consider increasing 415 and 430 services. Or even extend some 401/403/411 services to the new shopping centre.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:13 pm

To increase services on these routes there needs to be a corresponding cut elsewhere as there is no funding for additional kilometres(this has been the case for several years now).
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:10 am

An other(minor) change in October will be the run/shift biscuit-currently each operation has their depot code(TT 1--4, LCB 1--6) I'm sure this will change to 1--9 ?
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:13 pm

Doesn't look like any details of timetable changes are being announced today-maybe Tuesday next?
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:03 pm

jibb wrote:Doesn't look like any details of timetable changes are being announced today-maybe Tuesday next?

Today not looking promising either ?
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby hillsbus » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:58 pm

Maybe the changes will now be later in the month?
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October Bus Timetable changes

Postby bigrobbo » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:43 am

5AA led their 5:30am and 6:00am news about the changes due on the 18th (that’s what I thought I heard!!)

Three points.

- reducing the number of empty buses along Currie/Grenfell Sts
- 200 more buses a week servicing the NRAH
- improved services to the LMHS.


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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:59 am

According to the front page story in todays Advertiser the starting date is the 14th.
Magill Road services will see extra services and will become Route 106 and will through Route 167/168.
J1 services from Elizabeth to the Airport will be reintroduced. Service frequencies to the Airport and Harbour Town will also be increased.
There will be additional G10 services.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby I Follow PAFC » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:07 am

Adelaide Metro bus service changes Sunday 14 October 2018.
https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... tober-2018
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Eurostar » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:49 pm

I can imagine those 500-502 through runs to West Lakes suffering many late runnings
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby TA3001 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:00 pm

What is surprising about the timetable is that the name of the J1 timetable .pdf is still in the previous context. There is literally no mention of J1 or J2. Could get confusing for those who wish to load the .pdf on their phone.

And just for the hell of it, the B10 from Adelaide to West Lakes was previously known as the 113, not the 110. I see it as equivalent to (hypothetically) renaming the current G20/G21 to 220, and 221, or even the 210 and 211. I think it is an oversight on the DPTI's behalf.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby bigrobbo » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:57 am

Woo hoo. The J1 is now servicing LMHS. Golden Grove now has access to this hospital.

How many track buses are surplus to needs? M44, G40, J1/J2 and now 502 is being through-routed during the week.

We may see less track buses doing “silver” work on other routes like 300, G10/G20 etc.


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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:37 am

I believe that additional buses will be needed for the O-Bahn,at least 7 or 8 for 110 services through linked to 500,501,502 routes plus 4 or 5 for J1,J2 services.
Currently St Agnes has about 10 they use in peaks,whilst Morphettville has a couple.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Eurostar » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:33 pm

After looking at the J1 and 500 routes. Rather than Elizabeth Station, Mountbatten Square, Elizabeth Way, Oxenham Drive, Gillingham Road, Elizabeth Way then Philip Highway, I think the J1 and 500 should just start and terminate at Elizabeth Centre

TO CITY

- Elizabeth Centre, Gillingham Road, Elizabeth Way, Elizabeth Station, Elizabeth Way then Philip Highway, etc.

FROM CITY

- Philip Highway, Elizabeth Way, Elizabeth Station, Elizabeth Way, Oxenham Drive to Elizabeth Centre.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Crispy! » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:59 pm

Eurostar wrote:After looking at the J1 and 500 routes. Rather than Elizabeth Station, Mountbatten Square, Elizabeth Way, Oxenham Drive, Gillingham Road, Elizabeth Way then Philip Highway, I think the J1 and 500 should just start and terminate at Elizabeth Centre

TO CITY

- Elizabeth Centre, Gillingham Road, Elizabeth Way, Elizabeth Station, Elizabeth Way then Philip Highway, etc.

FROM CITY

- Philip Highway, Elizabeth Way, Elizabeth Station, Elizabeth Way, Oxenham Drive to Elizabeth Centre.


I don’t get why there are so many bus routes that finish off at Elizabeth Station it would make sense if they did start/ finish at Elizabeth Centre the station is walking distance across the road anyway not that hard of a walk. :roll:
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:57 pm

The 540/541 routes will service the RAH(not the 500/501/502 routes).
541 is now a full time route to the City and the RAH.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby TA3001 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:07 pm

Crispy! wrote:
I don’t get why there are so many bus routes that finish off at Elizabeth Station it would make sense if they did start/ finish at Elizabeth Centre the station is walking distance across the road anyway not that hard of a walk.


This would be like West Lakes services finishing on West Lakes Boulevard instead of the interchange. Remember that the 900 skips Oxenham Drive and goes straight to the interchange. So where would you suggest terminating this one? Don't forget that passengers with mobility impairments would probably not appreciate having to walk from the centre across Elizabeth Way, whilst dodging traffic, all with 30 seconds or so before the train's due, as a result of a bus running late.

It would be an accident waiting to happen. It would certainly decrease patronage on buses which is what possibly what the DPTI want, but possibly not the enthusiast types. This suggestion could see a slightly less intense backlash that would be almost comparable to the closure of the railway from Hamilton Junction to Newcastle in NSW.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby BroadGauge » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:22 pm

Crunchy! wrote:I don’t get why there are so many bus routes that finish off at Elizabeth Station it would make sense if they did start/ finish at Elizabeth Centre the station is walking distance across the road anyway not that hard of a walk. :roll:

Umm, how would that make more sense? Is your aim to kill off all patronage from non-captive users?

I couldn't think of anything worse if you were travelling at night. What could be better than being dumped in the deserted carpark of a closed shopping centre, to have to make your own way on foot through that lonely, windswept and deserted carpark to the railway station? It sounds very safe :twisted:
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby homer9000 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 am

about time the buses were through linked again.I live in Payneham so it's a 1.5 km walk to klemzig station to get the new j1 to the airport.this year my brother booked me an uber although if I had known of this I would have said don't bother but the thought of rushing from work on the g10 and getting an o'bahn home and showering/getting ready and walking to the bus again with bags in tow was too rushed this time around.maybe next year if i can convince my mother not to do the parental pick up drop off or I can give her the keys to the holden and let her drive.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby jibb » Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:15 pm

Torrens Transit will go back to having a small depot at Edinburgh,same place as in 2011.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby nscaler69 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:38 am

Adelaide Metro bus service changes Sunday 14 October 2018
https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announcements/Planned-Disruptions/Adelaide-Metro-bus-service-changes-Sunday-14-October-2018 I like how it's termed a 'Planned Disruption'.
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But that is only the half of it, many other routes are having timetable tweaks.

Interestingly the W90/91 has some new asterisk's added at timetable time points, meaning - 'Times are approximate only. Bus does not have to wait until this time to depart stop'.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Merc1107 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:55 am

nscaler69 wrote: 'Times are approximate only. Bus does not have to wait until this time to depart stop'.
Darwin have the same in their timetables. Most drivers just keep going. What's the point in calling them "timing points" if they're more of a suggestion and the bus could easily arrive several minutes earlier or later?

Or have I completely missed the point here?
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby TT » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:45 pm

Approximate timing points are not new here, they already appear on quite a few timetables. Have a look at current 141 and 142 outbound on current timetable. And lots of city-terminating services have approximate time points in and near the city.
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Re: October Bus Timetable changes

Postby Skexis » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:35 pm

I notice Southlink have no entries on that change list. Does that mean they're doing it better than the opposition?
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