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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby homer9000 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:21 pm

one must remember the 1333 to 1338 units are all ex serco buses from the nineties 366,367,368,374,375,377 and are getting up there in years hence the problems.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:39 pm

If you compared the number of breakdowns with these, to the much newer Scanias on the O'bahn, the number would probably be quite low.

Remember that there are some at Southlink which get up to 100kph several times a week at least, and also at Edinburgh North, along with the odd LCB one running NIS from Old Reynella.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:21 pm

TA3001 wrote:...Remember that there are some at Southlink which get up to 100kph several times a week at least, and also at Edinburgh North...

Southlink buses are not supposed to exceed 80kph whilst in service.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:28 pm

Skexis wrote:
TA3001 wrote:...Remember that there are some at Southlink which get up to 100kph several times a week at least, and also at Edinburgh North...

Southlink buses are not supposed to exceed 80kph whilst in service.


Since when?

Aldgate/MB buses regularly get up to 100kph on the South easternn freeway. So what speed are Newton buses limited to? 30?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm

TA3001 wrote:Since when?

Aldgate/MB buses regularly get up to 100kph on the South easternn freeway. So what speed are Newton buses limited to? 30?

Around three or four years I think. Dunno about the hills services and the freeway though. Maybe they had different rules. No idea about Newton - ask them.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:22 pm

And why is this rule in effect? Wouldn't Southlink buses be governed to 80kph to ensure this doesn't occur then?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:25 pm

TA3001 wrote:And why is this rule in effect? Wouldn't Southlink buses be governed to 80kph to ensure this doesn't occur then?

Who knows. Someone complained about going too fast probably. As to governing, the newer Scanias are restricted to 100kph but as the road speed limit is 100 kph on all the roads we travel along it doesn't matter. I did however say whilst "in service".
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Eurostar » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:02 pm

I saw the Jay Weatherill bus around Smithfield area today. Nice Volvo coach it is too.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:33 pm

Skexis wrote:
TA3001 wrote:And why is this rule in effect? Wouldn't Southlink buses be governed to 80kph to ensure this doesn't occur then?

Who knows. Someone complained about going too fast probably. As to governing, the newer Scanias are restricted to 100kph but as the road speed limit is 100 kph on all the roads we travel along it doesn't matter. I did however say whilst "in service".


I just don't quite understand this as I have been on several buses on T840 and T843s which have gotten to 100kph. On New Years day, I caught 3311 on a T843 which was driven at about 80 on the South Eastern freeway and 3206 heading back on another T843 which was driven at 100kph by the same driver, who left Mt Barker about 7 minutes late so he could avoid laying over at stops.

Drivers have also sat on 100kph on every T840 I caught in 2017 (around 5 of them)
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby busrider » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Maybe the policy only applies to the southern/northern depots, not the hills?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:14 am

First there was AdMet livery with yellow fronts, then AdMet livery with red fronts. The latest one at Mile End is AdMet livery with a bright green front, one of the new electric buses. Currently plugged into the power point alongside Richmond Road, no fleet number yet but looks like a BusTech body. Or are they now Precision?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby tonyp » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:31 am

TT wrote:First there was AdMet livery with yellow fronts, then AdMet livery with red fronts. The latest one at Mile End is AdMet livery with a bright green front, one of the new electric buses. Currently plugged into the power point alongside Richmond Road, no fleet number yet but looks like a BusTech body. Or are they now Precision?

Does that mean that they're back in town? And do you mean at Mile End depot?

Like the diesel Bustechs, there may be a little window-line issue to resolve before winning the hearts and minds of the commuting public!
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:37 pm

Yes, Mile End depot alongside Richmond Road. Easy to see.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:53 pm

tonyp wrote:
TT wrote:First there was AdMet livery with yellow fronts, then AdMet livery with red fronts. The latest one at Mile End is AdMet livery with a bright green front, one of the new electric buses. Currently plugged into the power point alongside Richmond Road, no fleet number yet but looks like a BusTech body. Or are they now Precision?

Does that mean that they're back in town? And do you mean at Mile End depot?

Like the diesel Bustechs, there may be a little window-line issue to resolve before winning the hearts and minds of the commuting public!

Bustech buses are manufactured by Precision Buses at Edinburgh(north of Adelaide).
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:11 pm

From my travels today Light-City Buses has quite a few O-Bahn Artics out of action.
1113 is at Heavy Automatics Wingield.
1127 and 1136 (severely fire damaged) at Scania
1105 out of action(for several months)-Morphettville
1114,1159,1160 out of action (for some time-St Agnes
Can't be too many peak hour O-Bahn spares.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:07 pm

Why is it mainly the artics that are off the road though? Is 1161 officially retired? Is this the second one to be withdrawn after 1120?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm

TA3001 wrote:Why is it mainly the artics that are off the road though? Is 1161 officially retired? Is this the second one to be withdrawn after 1120?

Has been mentioned before 1161 was scrapped.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Eagle Eye » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:35 pm

TA3001 wrote:Why is it mainly the artics that are off the road though?

Underpowered to pull heavy loads at high speed and up hills. In other words they're not built for the O-Bahn.

The original Busway Mercs were heavily modified. The Hills Scanias are also modified for those conditions. The Busway Scanias are not modified.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:00 pm

Transit Systems NSW (sister company) to Torrens Transit has just been announced as the successful tenderer by the NSW Transport Minister of Region 6 in the inner western suburbs of Sydney.
They will take over the routes from STA on July 1st 2018.Existing staff will be retained on the same pay and conditions. They have big plans to improve/increase services including on-demand buses as well as electric buses.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:46 pm

Eagle Eye wrote:Underpowered to pull heavy loads at high speed and up hills. In other words they're not built for the O-Bahn.

The original Busway Mercs were heavily modified. The Hills Scanias are also modified for those conditions. The Busway Scanias are not modified.


And what about the diesel SL202s? Apart from the axles, were they any differences compared to the CNGs?

Also, what was the deal with the 3 speed transmissions which prevented them from doing 100kph? It's ironic that 443 held up Mercs which could get to 100kph, and then it got stuck behind Scanias doing 85kph in it's final years on the track.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TT » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:07 pm

Torrens Transit had a large ad in last Saturday’s Advertiser for bus driver positions in Sydney. Enquires to Mile End depot.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Skexis » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:43 pm

Eurostar wrote:I saw the Jay Weatherill bus around Smithfield area today. Nice Volvo coach it is too.
Eurostar wrote:Nice Volvo coach it is too.

Yeah. Shame about the vapid content though.
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby Route 506 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:16 pm

jibb wrote:From my travels today Light-City Buses has quite a few O-Bahn Artics out of action.
1113 is at Heavy Automatics Wingield.
1127 and 1136 (severely fire damaged) at Scania
1105 out of action(for several months)-Morphettville
1114,1159,1160 out of action (for some time-St Agnes
Can't be too many peak hour O-Bahn spares.


I didn't realise 1127 had been damaged by fire as well :shock:
1113 seems to have been on and off the road for a while now, and 1160 seems to have been out of action forever!

I had seen 1114 and 1159 in recent weeks so hopefully they are back in business before too long!

Glad that 1127 and 1136 are able to be repaired and not two more scrappings!
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby TA3001 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:59 pm

I heard a rumour saying that they will eventually be replaced with Volgren bodied Volvos or something that will actually be designed for O'bahn operations. Is this actually true, or not?
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Re: [Jan/Feb 2018] SA Transport observations

Postby jibb » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:31 pm

only 1136 is fire damaged.1127 has been at Scania for a while-engine problems?
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