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New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:01 pm

Here are a couple of photos taken back in the late 1980's. These where some of the first photos I ever took.. Enjoy :mrgreen:

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The last photo in this set was taken by fluke. I was passing the Library when I caught Sight of #17 one of the Mercedes 0305's parked on the footpath with Jumper leads trying to help start the AEC Reliance for its day's Library work. The Mobile Library was originally #1 in the Council Bus Fleet.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:20 am

Oh my, one of my beloved SL202's when she was about a year old by the looks of things. Photo appears to be from around 1988/1989....

K270UB6 - That Leyland Leopard is passing what is now the Icons Bar and the Sunflower lodge :P I'm sure you recognise it now.

The AEC 6U2RE is still alive and kicking as a house bus. I think the plate has been replaced with AEC760(?).

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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Vitalstatistix » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:40 am

These are some nice pics :D
The way that SL202 has been caught makes it look so fab. There also looks like a big improvement in terms of desto size with the SL202.

BTW Go Bus have tampered with the rear lights of #32 NZSL202 :roll:
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby dpalenski » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:06 am

I wonder if they still hang pushchairs of front or not :lol:
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby ka9102 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:32 pm

that MAN SL202 does remind me of MAN army truck used in germany. :)

and talking about the leyland leopard #20(WCT 480). :mrgreen:
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:14 pm

The desto blind size on the SL202's is much better than they are now with the LED displays. They did however, have the Merrilands route spelt 'Merilands' (presumably) because they couldn't get it to fit properly... I hope! :D

I always like the black-on-yellow SCHOOL desto blind that they had, instead of the retractable School signs they had on the other buses (you can see it on the rear of the 0305 #17 bus in one of the photo's above).

Poor old #20.... I wouldn't have wished that fate on her. Interesting to note that they never repainted the interior rear pillars from New Plymouth green.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:27 pm

NZSL202 wrote:Thank you VERY MUCH for posting those Readerbus!


My pleasure! BTW I love your Avatar. Do you have any of your New Plymouth City bus photos that you may like to share????
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Trolley Bus Racer » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:18 pm

At night if they had prams would that postion Be legal? covering the headlight and all
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Vitalstatistix » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:31 am

they'd just use the two middle ones. I highly doubt more than three prams would be used at night. BTW were there even night services in New Plymouth during that time.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:23 pm

Trolley Bus Racer wrote:At night if they had prams would that postion Be legal? covering the headlight and all


No they had to use one of the centre sets of pram hooks.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:33 pm

I found a couple of photos of the Depot taken just before the two AEC's #10 & #11 were sold to Hanhams Buses of Albany in Auckland & replaced by M.A.N SL202's, Which were the last buses purchased new by the NPCT.

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The two AEC's are on the Track nearest the Camera.

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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:04 pm

In the last photo, the bus on the right is a different colour green. Is that just the photo or was it not NPCT green?
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:22 pm

NZSL202 wrote:In the last photo, the bus on the right is a different colour green. Is that just the photo or was it not NPCT green?


Good spotting, That was one of the Stratford Motorbodies Leyland's. For some reason the paintwork on 21 & 22 wasn't as good as the rest of the fleet. As time went on they both ended up looking more Khaki than green.
Didn't help their odd looks much either. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:26 pm

K270UB6 wrote:they'd just use the two middle ones. I highly doubt more than three prams would be used at night. BTW were there even night services in New Plymouth during that time.


Yes, in fact we also had Public holiday services prior to July 1990.

Route 1 - Brooklands Time table from 1987 (prior to July 1990 changes)

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Route 13/A - Fitzroy time table from July 1990 (incorporating Fitzroy and Smart Road routes)

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IMO, the services very frequent with modern vehicles.

On the vehicles front, compare the MAN SL202's, 0305 Merc, Volvo B58's, and (god help me) the Leyland Leopards with the bedfords that infested most other provincial centres!
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:34 pm

readerbus wrote:
Good spotting, That was one of the Stratford Motorbodies Leyland's. For some reason the paintwork on 21 & 22 wasn't as good as the rest of the fleet. As time went on they both ended up looking more Khaki than green.
Didn't help their odd looks much either. :mrgreen:


Oh boy, that's one of 'the bricks'? Yikes!

Did NPCT paint those themselves, or were do done in Stratford where the buses were made? I seem to remember them having some sort of panel and paint shop shoehorned (somehow) into the depot.

BTW: I also notice it was on the Brooklands route before it was parked up. :wink:

readerbus wrote:My pleasure! BTW I love your Avatar. Do you have any of your New Plymouth City bus photos that you may like to share????


Unfortunately I don't have a lot that are in good shape! I'm currently trying to clean them up.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:05 pm

[quote="NZSL202"]Did NPCT paint those themselves, or were do done in Stratford where the buses were made? I seem to remember them having some sort of panel and paint shop shoehorned (somehow) into the depot.

BTW: I also notice it was on the Brooklands route before it was parked up. :wink: ]

These two BRICKS - Wasn't sure if you remembered their nicknames, were still in their original colour scheme from new. They may have looked better if the boys in the workshops had repainted them. :wink:

I don't know if you remember? But to get the buses into the paint shop they had the bi-folding doors that opened out onto St. Aubyn St. Right beside the Motorcycle shop that was there at the time. :mrgreen:
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby walky » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:15 pm

Neat photos :D does anyone have any more of the 305's?
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby readerbus » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:38 pm

walky wrote:Neat photos :D does anyone have any more of the 305's?



Of the original set 16-19, All were reclad by designline while with Ritchies.
16&18 are now with Murphy's Buses in Takanini. 17&19 are now with the Party Bus Company in Kumeu.

The later set. 7-9 are still with Ritchies in original condition. 7&8 are in Auckland at Ritchies Swanson Road Depot being used for School runs & backup service buses. 9 is in Timaru as a Schoolbus.

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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby ka9102 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:29 pm

those ex-NPCT 1984 merc o305 were built to ARA 1600 series specifications,including the floor colour,seating fabric,destro box,drivers' cab,door configration,etc.....just minus the MAN SL200 front.I was bit confused when I first saw one of these mercs,until I heard the "noise" from the rear.Oh,a ZF geared merc!!a naki girl. :D
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:14 pm

Those 1984 0305's were great buses, though I see they're a little worse for wear in Auckland now :cry:

BTW: The SL202 at the start only had two digit desto's. In July 1990, some significant change were made to all city routes and they ended up with three digit route numbers (e.g. Fitzroy 13/A, Merrilands 15/15A 16/16A). I assume the existing units replaced on all the vehicles?
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Simes » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:22 pm

ka9102 wrote:those ex-NPCT 1984 merc o305 were built to ARA 1600 series specifications,including the floor colour,seating fabric,destro box,drivers' cab,door configration,etc.....just minus the MAN SL200 front.I was bit confused when I first saw one of these mercs,until I heard the "noise" from the rear.Oh,a ZF geared merc!!a naki girl. :D

An O305 with a ZF in it :shock: 3 speed or????
Same OM 407h engine? 80k diff or did they have highway diffs? (taller)

How many were set up like this? Any survive? Would be interesting to get those innards over the ditch and wack it in a Sydney example (for the fun of it ;) )
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Vitalstatistix » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:15 am

there are only something like 6 -8 units, nost of which are up in auckland. Refer to omnibus society - Bus Location
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:19 pm

Simes wrote:[
An O305 with a ZF in it :shock: 3 speed or????
Same OM 407h engine? 80k diff or did they have highway diffs? (taller)

How many were set up like this? Any survive? Would be interesting to get those innards over the ditch and wack it in a Sydney example (for the fun of it ;) )


Yup, the New Plymouth ones (at least) were 3-Speed HP ZF with an 80K diff. Someone else can confirm the engine model, but I believe it was the same. Most of these vehicles are still in semi-regular use.
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby NZSL202 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:28 pm

NPCT #26 - 1972 AEC Reliance 6U2RE Hawke B50D

Under restoration at TATATM

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Engine still intact. Unknown operational state. They apparently have a spare though.
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It'd be lovely to see this giant old girl operational again!
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Re: New Plymouth City Transport

Postby Vitalstatistix » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:17 am

:shock: It certainly looks like they got a job on their hands.
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