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Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Centralian » Sat May 26, 2007 7:00 pm

The Bus Company, trading as Across Australia Coachlines, imported a substantial number of DAF powered Bova Futura coaches for their interstate express operations. The first was in 1986 and was registered UTR 520. I captured the vehicle when it made one of it's first service
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Seen in the more familiar later Bus Australia titles is another Bova Futura, fleet no 81 WV36AD, seen here in the main street of Katoomba.
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Postby torrens117 » Sat May 26, 2007 7:04 pm

I travelled in one of those with Bus Australia from Adelaide to Sydney in the mid 1990s. 24 hours via Broken Hill.
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Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:46 pm

I had been working for Across Australia Coachlines at the time after Max Winkless purchased these 3 companies in 1985:
1)Parlorcars,Perth.
2)Across Australia Coachlines,then based in Perth.
3)Quest Tours,Adelaide.

I have a few photos I took at the time.These are mainly 1985-1986.

I hope that there are others who can add their photos to this post.It would be of interest if anyone has any photos from the days when the former owner Ross Love owned AAC.He owned a PMC Adelaide bodied Volvo B10M 12.2 metre coach,An Austral Metroliner bodied single axle volvo B10M that ended up in the fleet when Max Winkless bought the fleet.It did become one of Banksia Tour's then sold to Flynn's Buslines vehicles.The other coach was a Howard Porter bodied Volvo B10M too.There was an article in "Truck & Bus" somewhere around 1984 or 85.Ross had ordered 2 x Ansair Mercedes 3 axle coaches and the story goes that there were supposed to be 6 Volgren Twin Decks ordered at the time but Max Winkless cancelled 4 and took the 2 that were ready for delivery.Both were based in Perth and transferred to Adelaide in May 1986 when they were replaced by New Bova's.

There were several Adelaide based coaches:
3 x 11.3m Domino Tourmasters.Retained their red and white "Quest Tours" Livery.These were used for tours.
(fleet No's:#21,#22,#23.)
2 x 12.2m Domino Tourmasters.These were painted in the new AAC livery.Used on express.(fleet No's:#24 and #25.)
1 x Bova Futura.This was put into service in December 1985.(#60).Used on express but was used on tours in 1986 onwards when more Bova's were added to the Adelaide fleet.Further Bova's were put in service at least from possibly after April 1986.Some were delivered to Perth for both AAC and Parlorcars.
The Perth based coaches,2 x Volgren Twin Decks and Ansair Mercedes coaches were brought to Adelaide.
1 of the Mercedes had been stranded on the Nullabor with a damaged engine.Thats 1986.This was towed to Adelaide and repaired.The Volgren Twin Decks were used in service on express and tours based at Adelaide.(No's:#54 and #55.)
1 x Denning 11.3m.This was a "Quest Tours" charter coach that was repainted in AAC livery.It was used on express when needed.(#18).
Parlorcars Dennings still in their Parlorcars livery saw service while based in Adelaide at times.
The Howard Porter bodied Volvo was in Adelaide before being returned to Perth in Feb.1986.It did end in Adelaide later up for sale on Main North Road Near Diaganol Road Pooraka, near where Kanga Bus Lines are.

Their Adelaide depot was in Provident Avenue Glynde which is the original Lewis Bros and Quest Tours depot.Their coach terminus in Adelaide was a converted petrol station in Morphett Street alongside the Morphett Street Bridge.
The Perth depot was off Great Eastern Highway,Belmont.I cant remember the street.What Perth street was their office/terminus?
In Melbourne the terminus was Whights Tourist Bureau in Flinders Stree nearer Elizabeth Street.
In Sydney the office and Terminus was in Parramatta.

You are welcome to add photos,information,memorabillia,etc here.
Here's the link to the Bus Australia topic:
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On tour in 1986 with the first Bova #60 at Little Hartley Nsw in 1986.
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Bova #60 on the Nullabour at the lookout,111km from SA/WA border.There were other coaches there at that time.1985.
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Another Bova in Sydney.
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Quest Tours Bova in the then familar red,white and blue livery.I think this was the only Bova that was used for tours as Quest Tours.
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Across Australia Coachlines Bova in Sydney.
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My first interstate express service in December 1985 in this Denning of Parlorcars.This coach was used for some Quest Tours out of Adelaide during 1986.Photo taken by me at the SA lookout 111kms from Border of SA/WA in December 1985 on the express service from Perth to Adelaide.
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The very first Bova in Australia.#60.I put this into its first service in December 1985.My very first East-West express service in both direction.This was the coach I was on.This coach had 2nd passenger door ahead of rear axles,underfloor drivers bunk and reduced baggage capacity.It also had fold up courier seat.It was the only version with those features.Photo taken at the Glynde depot 2 days before it entered its official service run from Adelaide to Perth.
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Bova Futura.Photo taken around 1986 in Sydney.
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Parlorcars Denning Denair.This saw service in Adelaide at times during 1985-86.It was used on AAC express at times.Beautiful coach.
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Domino Tourmaster 3 as per Across Australia fleet colours.1 of 2 40ft versions originally in Quest Tours livery,refer to advert. .There were 3 x 11.3 metre versions.Photo taken at Caiguna,WA for afternoon meal break heading to Perth.I was 1 of 4 coach captains on board this service.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:49 pm

More Across Australia Coachlines.
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Parlorcars Single axle Denning in Perth.,1985.
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The advert in the "Truck & Bus" magazine for Domino Industries Tourmaster 3.This one was the one of 3 12 metre versions owned by Quest Tours.Was repainted into Across Australia Coachlines livery in 1985.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:40 am

Another photo to add to my collection of Across Australia photos.
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Denning 11.3 metre coach.fleet #18.Used mainly on tours.Was orginally part of the Quest Tours fleet prior to the purchase of the company by Max Winkless in 1985.Was repainted in "The Bus Company's-Across Australia Coachlines" livery.This photo was taken at the depot one December morning in 1985 after the Parlorcars Denning next to it had arrived from the Perth to Adelaide service in which I was one of 2 coach captains on that service.My first express service.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:23 pm

Another photos of a Comair bodied Bedford.This vehicle was sold by BusCoach Pty Ltd in 1985.It wasnt in the fleet when I worked there doing charter/tours mid 1985.Most other buses in the fleet and their school runs were sold off at the end of the school year in December 1985.The depot was very busy with buses up for sale and the 1st Bova being prepared for registration and put into service.
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This was a Lewis Bros step deck.It was in the Quest Tours fleet.It had been altered with various Tourmaster parts and panels and had a Leyland turbo engine.It was still in their fleet by late 1985.This photo taken at their Glynde dpot next to an AEC.
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Bedford Comair,around 1985 around the time of the Max Winkless take over.
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Re: The first imported Bova Futura

Postby Denv12 » Sun May 04, 2014 5:09 pm

[quote="Centralian"]The Bus Company, trading as Across Australia Coachlines, imported a substantial number of DAF powered Bova Futura coaches for their interstae express operations. The first was in 1986 and was registered UTR 520. I captured the vehicle when it made one of it's first service
runs into Sydney.


This was the first Bova,#60.It had the downstairs toilet and bunk.The courier seat at the front.It did its first service to Perth from Adelaide on a Monday night in December at the start of school/xmas holidays.I was driving it to Perth every Monday night for about 4 weeks straight and I did the return service on Thursday nights.We had 36 hours off.Once it got back to Adelaide it 1 driver would stay on,the other got off and a new driver got on.The coach continued on to Melbourne leaving at 8am and arrived in Melbourne at 6.30pm and departed at 7pm for Sydney arriving at 6.30am the next morning.We would head back to Melbourne at 6pm,arrive in Melbourne 6.30am and leave melbourne for Adelaide at 8am.
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Re: The first imported Bova Futura

Postby Denv12 » Sun May 04, 2014 5:11 pm

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Here are some of my photos of this coach in 1985/86.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun May 04, 2014 6:00 pm

[quote="Centralian"]The Bus Company, trading as Across Australia Coachlines, imported a substantial number of DAF powered Bova Futura coaches for their interstate express operations. The first was in 1986 and was registered UTR 520. I captured the vehicle when it made one of it's first service
runs into Sydney.

I think #60 might have been the only one with the door at the rear and downstairs toilet and bunk.This could be #60 in its Bus Australia livery and re-registered.Can anyone verify that?
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun May 04, 2014 6:08 pm

[quote="Centralian"]The Bus Company, trading as Across Australia Coachlines, imported a substantial number of DAF powered Bova Futura coaches for their interstate express operations. The first was in 1986 and was registered UTR 520. I captured the vehicle when it made one of it's first service
runs into Sydney.


The photo looks like it as take out the front of the Hampton Court Motel.We stayed there during the day after going out to BP Drummoyne for washing the coach,refuelling,etc.When we did the triangle we were only there for an hour before leaving during the week.If we ended up in Sydney on a Saturday we stayed overnight and continued on with the next service.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Landseer » Sun May 04, 2014 6:13 pm

The parlorcar centre engine denning was the Perth Exmouth
express in the mid eighties
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Postby Doc68 » Sun May 04, 2014 10:37 pm

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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Mon May 05, 2014 6:11 am

Landseer wrote:The parlorcar centre engine denning was the Perth Exmouth
express in the mid eighties


The coach shows the rear panel work of a rear engined coach plus the mid mount panel work.
The air conditioner must have fitted underneath too.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Mon May 05, 2014 9:14 am

I'd like to make a suggestion here,for this post can we do one only Bova post covering all Bova related photos,etc and keep the Across Australia/Parlorcars/Quest Tours topic separate? Would that be a better solution? Who is the moderator(s) who can do that?
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:45 am

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These were my senior coach captain epaulettes.Dating back to 1986.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:40 am

Somewhere in the history of Across Australia Coachlines was Ross Love. Was he the owner prior to Max Winkless buying the company?
Was Ross connected to guys who started up "Flight Centre"? I remember there were 3 Volvo coaches:1 x PMC-Adelaide 3 axle Apollo(possibly without a restroom), 1 x Domino Metroliner single axle (was sold to St.Agnes then ex Flynn's Buslines then damaged in an accident), and 1 x Howard Porter Volvo single axle as shown in the AAC bus timetable in this posting. Max had a friend Ross,in Sydney, who was his rally partner.What was his last name? What made Max get involved in the coach industry?
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Centralian » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:53 pm

" The photo looks like it as take out the front of the Hampton Court Motel.We stayed there during the day after going out to BP Drummoyne for washing the coach,refuelling,etc.When we did the triangle we were only there for an hour before leaving during the week.If we ended up in Sydney on a Saturday we stayed overnight and continued on with the next service."

I took the photo in the Kings Cross / Potts Point area . Can't recall exact location.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:58 pm

Centralian wrote:" The photo looks like it as take out the front of the Hampton Court Motel.We stayed there during the day after going out to BP Drummoyne for washing the coach,refuelling,etc.When we did the triangle we were only there for an hour before leaving during the week.If we ended up in Sydney on a Saturday we stayed overnight and continued on with the next service."

I took the photo in the Kings Cross / Potts Point area . Can't recall exact location.

Thats Bayswater Road,Kings Cross. All Across Australia Coachlines drivers stayed there.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:30 am

Going back in history to when the company was first founded.I heard that the people who started "Flight Centre" started the original Across Australia Coachlines.That was around 1980.Way before Max Winkless era.I'm not sure if the original company was based in Perth or not.They did run Volvo coaches. After its founder(s),was the next owner Ross Love? Was the business then based in Perth? Where was their depot and terminus? From there then Max Winkless becomes the owner of both AAC and also Parlorcars in Perth. The Howard Porter Volvo goes back to the start as per the photo on their timetable.It was repainted red,white and blue.I drove it once on AAC exppress in Feb 1986. I remember the Domino Metroliner as it was used for charter painted in the red,white and blue livery as well.(it was sold off with other Quest Tours buses. In 1982 (or 1983) when I was Perth bound I did see the PMC Volvo 3 axle coach on the Nullabor in its white with brown striped livery.It must have been repainted at some point from its Adelaide "Dial a Bus" livery.

Whats the history of Perth Parlorcars? Who founded the original company? And,when? What vehicles did they use? Was their depot always in Belmont just off the Great Eastern Hwy? And where was their terminus? Was it in the city?
If you can help out with further information,that would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby system improver » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:06 pm

Denv12 wrote:Whats the history of Perth Parlorcars? Who founded the original company? And,when? ...


Started 24/10/64 as Parlorcars Interstate Tours (WA) as a joint venture between A P (Percy) Withers and Jack Norman, who was managing partner in Perth. When Percy liquidated the company and sold the assets in 1967, Jack Norman bought his share - which was just as well. Parlorcars in Perth was the only part of a once Australia wide network that continued beyond 1971 (eventually de-registered in 2006). The rest became Panther Tours with an even bigger liquidation and bankruptcy and eventually folded a couple of years later. Percy Withers started Parlor Cars in the early 30s. At the time, the Withers family was also running Pioneer with Percy as manager. I am currently writing the history of Parlorcars which will feature in the Xmas Special of Australian Bus Panorama. It is the magazine of the Bus and Coach Society of Victoria and is published 7 times per year and is included (posted) in the membership fee of $55 or $40 (students under 25 and concession card holders).

http://bcsv.org.au/membership/

As to the other parts of the question, I'll leave it to someone from WA to answer those.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:46 pm

Thanks system improver for your reply.
Thats an incredible history of the company. We knew people in Adelaide who serviced their vehicles during the 1960s on Port Road Woodville I think. I drove some of Parlorcars coaches when I did express and tours in 1985-86 during the Max Winkless era.
Good luck with your feature article.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:47 pm

Its interesting to see the Across Australia Coachlines from 1985 onwards livery compared to the Bus Australia livery.Dont know why they changed it,there's very little difference.
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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:54 pm

There is some history of AAC on this post:

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Re: Across Australia Coachlines/Parlorcars/Quest.

Postby Denv12 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:52 pm

I just started a facebook group catering for Across Australia Coachlines,Quest Tours,Parlorcars,Dial a bus/Coachlines of Australia(SA),Bus Australia,etc.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511749922206353/
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