Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
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Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
I`d say the trailer is Syd Wood the prime be a White and a ex Sydney bus.But I`ll look for a picture for you.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
I think it is a MBA bodied White. GM
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
I am aware that
Rover Motors of Cessnock, Georgetown Bus Service, Parramatta-Ryde Bus Service and also Foggs all operated Semi Trailer Buses
Rover Motors of Cessnock, Georgetown Bus Service, Parramatta-Ryde Bus Service and also Foggs all operated Semi Trailer Buses
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
The trailer looks like the one in this picture.Picture from the Ken Magor collection.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Also Kirklands.busmadrod wrote:I am aware that
Rover Motors of Cessnock, Georgetown Bus Service, Parramatta-Ryde Bus Service and also Foggs all operated Semi Trailer Buses
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
From Greg Travers book THE AUSTRALIAN ARTICULATED BUS of 1987 there appear to have been nine White Forward Control MBA bodied Semi-Trailers.
11.1945 Kirkland Lismore
03.1946 Quinn Yamba
05.1946 Berrima District Bus Service (No Photo)
08.1946 Quodling Bros Queenbeyan
09.1946 Blue and Red Murwillumbah
09.1946 Blue and Red Murwillumbah
01.1947 New England Motor Co Lismore
02.1947 Eggins Taree
02.1948 Rutty & Sons Wollongong GM
11.1945 Kirkland Lismore
03.1946 Quinn Yamba
05.1946 Berrima District Bus Service (No Photo)
08.1946 Quodling Bros Queenbeyan
09.1946 Blue and Red Murwillumbah
09.1946 Blue and Red Murwillumbah
01.1947 New England Motor Co Lismore
02.1947 Eggins Taree
02.1948 Rutty & Sons Wollongong GM
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Thanks for the shots and detail GM.
Kirklands MO 739, "Spirit of Progress" was sold in 1955 to Morgan of Gympie.
NEMCo MO 3192 was sold to Bull's Coach & Bus Hire of Adelaide.
Kirklands MO 739, "Spirit of Progress" was sold in 1955 to Morgan of Gympie.
NEMCo MO 3192 was sold to Bull's Coach & Bus Hire of Adelaide.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Does that hint then that the Gladstone one was a further cascade from Gympie? If the book doesn't mention Gladstone, we are into the realm of guesswork.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
I don't think so, for two reasons. Even allowing for removal of roof rack and spats, the Kirklands unit (seemingly uniquely among the others photographed) has a square, rather than rounded, driver's window. Plus, its "cutout" at the front bottom of the trailer starts under the tenth window from the rear - on the Gladstone unit it starts under the ninth.Roderick Smith wrote:Does that hint then that the Gladstone one was a further cascade from Gympie?
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Hi All.
I remember only too well the semi trailer bus in Gladstone I took it most days from Barney Point to school. That is a very long time ago now, but as I say memory of it clear as day pick up on the corner of Wood St.
I remember only too well the semi trailer bus in Gladstone I took it most days from Barney Point to school. That is a very long time ago now, but as I say memory of it clear as day pick up on the corner of Wood St.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
There was in fact two semi trailer buses in Gladstone - dating back as far as 1953.
One was a Commer registered Q603-609 with a trailer plate QT25-593 - this registration dates from 1953.
The other was a White registered Q590-915 with a trailer plate QT22-339 - this registration also dates from 1953 (a few months earlier than the Commer).
Meaning that if it is a MBA bodied White it must've been disposed of to Gladstone by 1953.
One was a Commer registered Q603-609 with a trailer plate QT25-593 - this registration dates from 1953.
The other was a White registered Q590-915 with a trailer plate QT22-339 - this registration also dates from 1953 (a few months earlier than the Commer).
Meaning that if it is a MBA bodied White it must've been disposed of to Gladstone by 1953.
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Any photos of Both? GM
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Here's a photo I just found during a quick Google search - courtesy of Cam McFadyen.GM wrote:Any photos of Both? GM
It shows the two trailer buses.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
These semi trailer buses belonged to the Gladstone Bus Service which was owned by ADRIAN WALLACE GRAHAM until sale to CECIL PETER & MATILDA GERSEKOWSKI during June 1955.Hornibrook wrote:There was in fact two semi trailer buses in Gladstone - dating back as far as 1953.
One was a Commer registered Q603-609 with a trailer plate QT25-593 - this registration dates from 1953.
The other was a White registered Q590-915 with a trailer plate QT22-339 - this registration also dates from 1953 (a few months earlier than the Commer).
Meaning that if it is a MBA bodied White it must've been disposed of to Gladstone by 1953.
At that stage the fleet consisted of five vehicles:
1) Q603-609 (QT25-593) Commer Semi Trailer Bus
2) Q590-915 (QT22-339) White Semi Trailer Bus
3) Q636-763 International
4) Q649-496 Dodge
5) Q672-965 Leyland Diesel
Based upon the valuations the Leyland Diesel was the newest of them all.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Upon some photo comparisons the Quodling Bros vehicle appears to be a likely candidate for the Gladstone vehicle.
What does everyone think? What disposal is recorded for it?
What does everyone think? What disposal is recorded for it?
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
The Commer rig and trailer looks like ex Georgetown bus service mo-418 Newcastle.Picture from the Ken Magor collection.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
While they are kind of similar I don't think it is the one that went to Gladstone, Bedford-29. The driver's window is one of the biggest dissimilarities.
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The left hand Trailer certainly looks like the Gladstone Semi. GM
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Hmm I disagree based on a photo comparison - although happy to be proven wrong.GM wrote:The left hand Trailer certainly looks like the Gladstone Semi. GM
I guess a relatively easy way of determining one way or another is when the photo of Ken Magor was taken?
If it's after 1953 then it clearly isn't the same vehicle (as it was in Gladstone by then).
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Here is a photo i took of Georgetown's Commer on the 16th, January 1962.
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
Looking at all of the White/MBA semis the Quinn's unit MO 3068, seems to be the closest to the Gladstone unit, as the trailer unit has normal mudguards where all the others had Spats.
The Quinn's unit went to Georgetown Bus Co in 1958 as m/o 725, Commer Tug replaced White April. 1959.
Bus sold 01.1971 to P Kerr Gunnedah.
On the Commer unit the windows on the section over the Turntable are small in comparison to the MBA units GM
The Quinn's unit went to Georgetown Bus Co in 1958 as m/o 725, Commer Tug replaced White April. 1959.
Bus sold 01.1971 to P Kerr Gunnedah.
On the Commer unit the windows on the section over the Turntable are small in comparison to the MBA units GM
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Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
We're back to square one then as it's clearly not the ones above.GM wrote:Looking at all of the White/MBA semis the Quinn's unit MO 3068, seems to be the closest to the Gladstone unit, as the trailer unit has normal mudguards where all the others had Spats.
The Quinn's unit went to Georgetown Bus Co in 1958 as m/o 725, Commer Tug replaced White April. 1959.
Bus sold 01.1971 to P Kerr Gunnedah.
On the Commer unit the windows on the section over the Turntable are small in comparison to the MBA units GM
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
These images are from Neale Kirkland's CD. There is no context confirming that this is definitely the ex Kirklands bus though - to me the grille doesn't seem to match.
The bottom image has somehow been stretched vertically in attaching it to this post. The others seem OK.
The bottom image has somehow been stretched vertically in attaching it to this post. The others seem OK.
Re: Gladstone semitrailer bus in 1968
It is similar to Kirklands White Semi particularly the grille. GM
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