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New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Bradley » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:12 am

Ventura (Rosebud) #1271 (BS02 MF) a Volvo B8RLEA, Volgren "Optimus" seen on a 788 route service from Portsea seen about to complete it journey before proceed to Portsea at Frankston (14/2/2017).
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Ventura (Rosebud) #1271 (BS02 MF) a Volvo B8RLEA, Volgren "Optimus" seen on a 788 route service from Portsea seen about to complete it journey before proceed to Portsea at Frankston (14/2/2017).

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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Alex on the Bus » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:18 pm

I believe the most appropriate response to this is: phwoar!
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby tonyp » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:50 am

Alex on the Bus wrote:I believe the most appropriate response to this is: phwoar!

In the normal context of the use of that word, if I saw a girl looking like that I wouldn't be saying "phwoar!! :wink: Certainly don't try "you look like a bus" on any member of the opposite sex. :lol:

Anyway, it has a high aisle with steps at the back - almost there but not quite. You need Scania N series chassis.
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby BroadGauge » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:57 am

tonyp wrote:Anyway, it has a high aisle with steps at the back - almost there but not quite. You need Scania N series chassis.

The route that it runs on is nearly 90 minutes (and 55km) long and exists to provide the trunk service the communities along the southern peninsula that are between 45 and 90 minutes travel time from Frankston, if anything it needs a semi coach!
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby tonyp » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:04 am

BroadGauge wrote:The route that it runs on is nearly 90 minutes (and 55km) long and exists to provide the trunk service the communities along the southern peninsula that are between 45 and 90 minutes travel time from Frankston, if anything it needs a semi coach!

That would call for a double decker or 14 metre with high seating capacity. Why then did they buy the wrong bus for the wrong service?
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Tiger Bruce » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:57 pm

I rode on 1271 on Tues.14 Feb EX Frankston to Rosebud NO MYKI terminals fitted so all passengers got a free ride! This new bus has been on the 788 run for a few days . A double decker bus could not be used on this route due to the lack of clearance under the Martha Cove tunnel.
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Tiger Bruce » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:10 pm

Ventura Rosebud depot have 3 scania 14.5m buses 474 484 & 491 with up to 56 seats the Volvo artic. has 57 seats I am lead to believe, with a much larger standing capacity than the 14.5m Scanias
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby maxy54 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:44 pm

Tiger Bruce wrote:Ventura Rosebud depot have 3 scania 14.5m buses 474 484 & 491 with up to 56 seats the Volvo artic. has 57 seats I am lead to believe, with a much larger standing capacity than the 14.5m Scanias


#1271 actually replaced #484 which has been downgraded to Spare/School Bus. They also have former Pakenham Unit #65 (Scania L94UA/Volgren “CR224L”)
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Tiger Bruce » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:59 pm

With the overcrowding on route 788 services Both am / pm school time it is obvious that the largest capacity bus is not the answer. With a frequency of 45 min.all day Mon. to Fri. it seems an impossible task. I would suggest that an extra 20 min. service be introduced during the school am / pm times maybe between Mornington & Rye. I see no need to run extra services all the way to Portsea. Any other suggestions are welcome.
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Leyland B21 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:35 pm

I've already posted my idea in another thread but I'll state it here too. If the frequency is not going to be increased. Then I believe ptv should allow kms for Ventura to double bank a couple of short trips between Mcrae and Frankston in both peak to supplement the full loadings of full trips.

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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:30 pm

Wow, I'd love one (or some) of these Optimus B8 artics in Sydney but our Liberal Government made it a public stance of no more new arctic buses, no ifs/buts and the existing artics will be slowly phased out.

Anyway back on topic, for my next visit to Melbourne, can someone here tell me what route(s) does this bus run on? Is it only the 788? All day or only during peak hours?
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby venturatiger » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 pm

Hi, depending when you are coming to Melbourne
Optimus artics run route 788 from Capel Sound depot, can be on the run during the day
But Dandenong depot now has a couple as well, Mentone in peak is probably the best time to get them
There is at least 2 more awaiting delivery

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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby MCI9 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:08 am

Tiger Bruce wrote:I rode on 1271 on Tues.14 Feb EX Frankston to Rosebud NO MYKI terminals fitted so all passengers got a free ride! This new bus has been on the 788 run for a few days . A double decker bus could not be used on this route due to the lack of clearance under the Martha Cove tunnel.

Double deckers can be used on routes to 788 ect,greyhound ran them a trial has been done all was ok but security was a big prob tunnel not a prob grenda didn't go ahead with them hence 94 ect long n low scanias should have been d\decks
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Andy O » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:48 pm

MCI9. I too would suggest the martha cove tunnel would be a problem. Don't have the exact height off the top of my head so I could be wrong but don't think so. When you talk about a greyhound trial, it suggests some time ago. That would have been long before the martha cove tunnel was even talked about, its around 5-10 years old.

EDIT: built in 2006, height is 4.3 metres so would be pushing to get a double decker under.
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby MCI9 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:50 pm

It would be OK for d,deck they got under Dudley street bridge easy 4.1they used to get under volgren decker
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:40 pm

MCI9 wrote:It would be OK for d,deck they got under Dudley street bridge easy 4.1they used to get under volgren decker


Nope, a Volgren Optimus decker is just about 4.4m tall. So it would either be a scrape or a crash.
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Re: New Ventura Artic on route 788.

Postby Bus Suggestions » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:19 pm

Both the current Volgren Optimus decker and the previous CR223LD (which was built for south-east Asian operators) were each 4.4 m tall, meaning the bus would either roll the top off, crash, or scrape off the 10 cm. A Gemilang decker, however, is 4.26 m tall meaning you may potentially be able to fit it through Martha Cove Tunnel, but you would really be pushing.
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