Transit Systems 8106 is seen on route 389 to Bondi from Maritime Museum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKP3M6K6tc&t=1s

Sounds more like being in a train/tram than a bus

boronia wrote:Sounds more like being in a train/tram than a bus

May as well go that direction these days as the diesels aren't getting any more interesting. A Scania engine isn't exactly a Leyland 0680 in the sound stakes.

It's not a hybrid (diesel-electric) bus, it's an electric bus. Thanks for posting the video, I've been waiting for somebody to show the BYD. It would be interesting to know what people think of it compared to the Yutong. It's not always accurate to judge from a video, but I get the impression that the BYD still has some amount of engine noise inside, like the similar Carbridge BYDs, whereas the Yutong is almost silent inside (as an electric bus should be). Comment on the quality of the body, seat pitch etc compared to the Yutong would also be appreciated.

A tip for filming inside a bus (or any vehicle) - pan the camera around a bit during the journey so that we can get a better picture of what the vehicle is like overall, including a view down the aisle. A last shot of the outside while getting off is also good. It's not too hard, I've done it myself. It's not necessary to just point the camera forward the whole time. I know people don't like to pan a camera around because there are other passengers, but when you're behind them and there aren't many of them it's not a problem.

boronia wrote:Sounds more like being in a train/tram than a bus

My experience of the BYDs at the airport is that they're noisier inside than a diesel! Sort of partly defeats the purpose. The Yutong is much better. There's always some crap in Chinese products, it's just a matter of degree.

Here is a video of the BYD with some (but not enough - no aisle views) panning coverage of the exterior and interior as well as the fixed position ride in a seat. This gives the viewer a much better impression of the vehicle if they haven't seen or ridden it themselves, which I would have thought would be much of the purpose of posting a public video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyom5yRfKcc

Here is another video of the Yutong operating in Sydney. It seems to confirm my impression that it's quieter inside than the BYD. Of particular interest is that you can hear the Yutong's electronic imitation of a tram bell, necessary because it's dangerously quiet on the outside. It sounds pretty awful though, I'm sure they could come up with a better sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884DU4gmJZw

Love how the Gemilang sounds like it is falling apart already - more squeaks and rattles than you could poke a stick at.....

andyr wrote:Love how the Gemilang sounds like it is falling apart already - more squeaks and rattles than you could poke a stick at.....

Somebody has made the same comment in their video about the same Yutong E12 model Yutong in Sofia, Bulgaria (LHD, 3 door):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPguVWzMrmc&t

Another in Liverpool, UK (RHD, 1 door):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4dEOjY0q0

The standard E12 is fully low floor, as seen in this video. For some reason the Australian demonstrators have a high floor at the back. The Australian ones also have a valence around the roof to hide from view the batteries and aircon and the rear window is covered by an opaque film. These are the major visible differences from the standard model.

Why does Australia cling to the 25 year old and counting low entry layout? It's not like there is a diesel engine to place somewhere, yet they cling. We evidently have an extremely conservative bus scene here that hates too much innovation.
At least were not insisting on one door buses like in parts of the U.K.. Idiots!

tonyp wrote:The standard E12 is fully low floor, as seen in this video. For some reason the Australian demonstrators have a high floor at the back. The Australian ones also have a valence around the roof to hide from view the batteries and aircon and the rear window is covered by an opaque film. These are the major visible differences from the standard model.

Even the E12's in Santiago, Chile are fully low floor too! Which is saying something for a market typically dominated by predominantly low entry buses at the lower end of the scale.

Mr OC Benz wrote: Even the E12's in Santiago, Chile are fully low floor too! Which is saying something for a market typically dominated by predominantly low entry buses at the lower end of the scale.

The only answer ABC magazine could get out of the Yutong Australian distributor when asked why the local one has a high floor was that it was "modified for Australian conditions". When even UK models have a low floor, you marvel at the slack thinking of our local industry.

tonyp wrote:

Mr OC Benz wrote: Even the E12's in Santiago, Chile are fully low floor too! Which is saying something for a market typically dominated by predominantly low entry buses at the lower end of the scale.

The only answer ABC magazine could get out of the Yutong Australian distributor when asked why the local one has a high floor was that it was "modified for Australian conditions". When even UK models have a low floor, you marvel at the slack thinking of our local industry.

And the loser is the end user.

The Bustech CDi has a low floor all the way to the back due to limited headroom.

ABS wrote:The Bustech CDi has a low floor all the way to the back due to limited headroom.

That's typical in double deckers generally now.