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Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby tonyp » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:12 pm

In a discussion on a NSW thread I referred to these new units, 8376MO and 8377MO, delivered in January 2017.

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I've finally caught up with these buses stopping long enough to photograph, in Stewart Place terminus, Nowra. I referred in the previous discussion to the fact that Shoal Bus has chosen to forego the usual Volgren bonded glazing that extends down to the waistline and has merely had the bodywork openings behind the glass - which step up with the seats towards the back - glazed. The typical Volgren "straightline" look has been preserved by painting the whole window band black. In the distance it looks like a normal Volgren. Close-up those small windows look a little weird. Here is the Volgren drawing showing the typical window cut-outs behind the normal bonded glazing:

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Here is 8376:

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8377:

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and its rear windows:

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(Mods are welcome to grab these photos for fleetlists if desired. I have full res originals if required.)
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby Swift » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:43 pm

Can Volgren come up with a better front than that? Looks so generic. Their previous one was the best from this body shell. That built in pod at the back of the roof looks plain weird. Fire the designers of this garbage!
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby Swift » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:02 pm

If only they would develop this version.
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby Bus Suggestions » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:36 pm

Now that looks better, but that rear pod is for an engine intake mind you. You also need to note that the Full low floor version is only available with certain bus chassis that don't have a step to the rear. And there isn't a RHD rigid chassis available with more than 2 doors (at least I think)
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby tonyp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:27 am

Swift wrote:If only they would develop this version.

Bus Suggestions wrote:Now that looks better, but that rear pod is for an engine intake mind you. You also need to note that the Full low floor version is only available with certain bus chassis that don't have a step to the rear. And there isn't a RHD rigid chassis available with more than 2 doors (at least I think)

We need somebody to post photos of the Melbourne Skybus fully low-floor Volgrens on Scania N series chassis with vertical rear engine - this is as close as we get to this concept in Australia so far. However, the only low floor chassis available here (Scania and MAN) haven't had the rear mechanicals reversed to enable a door behind the rear axle on the left side. Two doors between the axles should be possible though.
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby Swift » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:43 pm

How bout this for a stop gap? You would think some Australian company could re -engineer the MAN and Scania low floor chassis to allow rear doors. I think the key is the state admins need to request such a configuration for our roads.
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby tonyp » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:55 pm

The chassis manufacturers won't go to the cost of re-engineering the rear mechanicals until there is a significant demand in the whole RHD market internationally. Since the RHD bus market is mainly conservative British-influenced, that probably won't happen any time soon. Unless somewhere like Singapore or Japan catches onto the benefits.
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Re: Shoal Bus MAN Volgrens

Postby Swift » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:45 pm

tonyp wrote: Unless somewhere like Singapore or Japan catches onto the benefits.
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