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Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:32 am
by Ribble
I'm compiling a photo album of Pre 1946 new build deliveries of buses to Sydney/Newcastle - the old DRTT.

These would be buses within the original Fleet Numbers 1001-1010; 1161-1294; 1372-1762.
( Fleet Numbers 1011-1160 & 1295-1371 were buses bought Second Hand from various sources. )

I'm looking for Near and Offside photos of each Chassis type / Body combination.

Information on here please or direct to me at Ribble@xtra.co.nz

Thanks Don in NZ

Photos of vehicles still needed are....

Updated 2 September 2012

AEC Regal / Syd Wood

AEC Regent / Syd Woods
AEC Regent / Clyde

AEC Renown / McKenzie

Albion Valiant / Syd Woods

Albion Valkerie / Syd Wood

Albion Venturer / Waddington

Albion Venturer / Syd Wood

Dennis Lance II / Waddington

Dennis Lancet / Syd Woods

Dennis Lancet / Waddington

Ford Austerity / DRTT

Leyland LT5 / Clyde

Leyland RTS8 / Olding
Leyland RTS8 / Syd Wood
leyland RTS8 / Waddington

Leyland TD1 / Syd Wood
leyland TD1 / Syd Wood

Leyland TD3 / Waddington
Leyland TD3 / Syd Wood

Leyland TD4 / Waddington
Leyland TD4 / Clyde

Leyland TS7 / Syd Wood

Reo / Wood (ex Newcastle)

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:29 pm
by Dave Wilson
Ribble

I'll send you some pictures by email.

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:07 pm
by ross johnson
Please Dave, could you publish them on the Forum also?

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:28 pm
by Dave Wilson
ross johnson wrote:Please Dave, could you publish them on the Forum also?
Please Dave, could you publish them on the Forum also?


Guess I could, might elicit further information.

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:11 pm
by Ribble
Dave Wilson wrote:Ribble

I'll send you some pictures by email.



Thanks Dave...I got them.

I will have to start looking back older BusAus Sydney Photo Topics for Motorfest shots of the Pre-War ones preserved.....

Cheers

Don

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:18 pm
by Simes
There are not many pre war deckers in preservation and to my knowledge not many (if any) have been out for the past few motorfests.

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:46 pm
by Dave Wilson
Simes wrote:There are not many pre war deckers in preservation and to my knowledge not many (if any) have been out for the past few motorfests.

There are quite a few, but the people and resources to restore them are very sparse.

The DRTT list is as follows:

1187 1935 Albion Venturer
1286 1937 AEC Regent
1379 1937 Leyland TD-4 (appears regularly at Motorfest)
1411 1937 Leyland TD-4 lowbridge (body currently on an Albion Model 80 Venturer chassis)
1438 1937 Leyland TD-5
1563 1938 Leyland TD-5
1615 1939 Albion Venturer
1635 1939 Leyland TD-5
1688 1940 AEC Regent (has appeared at Motorfest in the past a few times)
1694 1940 AEC Regent

Only two of the above are restored and capable of passenger work (1379 1688). A third (1187)although the body is completely restored, has unresolved mechanical issues particularly its ancient braking system (which may never be capable of coping adequately with modern conditions). 1688 requires refurbishment/replacement of part of its braking system and some remedial work has already been done to this end. None of the others are anywhere near restored condition. 1635 has had quite a deal of work done to it and 1615 is undergoing a comprehensive restoration process as I write.

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:07 pm
by Swift
So how 'capable' are 1379 and 1688 in modern conditions?
Are the post war rear platform deckers much better at their work?

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:28 pm
by Dave Wilson
Swift wrote:So how 'capable' are 1379 and 1688 in modern conditions?
Are the post war rear platform deckers much better at their work?


Under load they are unforgiving in heavy,stop start traffic conditions-especially 1688,its revs die fairly quickly necessitating constant, quick changes in the low range.Hard work in hot weather. I think the Leyland is a bit slower but hangs on longer on a grade- a bit like an Albion( not that I have ever driven 1379 but have driven similar Leylands).They were probably OK in the old days before the proliferation of cars, traffic lights and other intrusions. The post war buses tended to have larger engines (Leyland OPD2 9.8 litres /AEC 9.6 litres) and of course preselector gear boxes made life easier. Leyland OPD2s had synchro mesh boxes apart from the last 50 which were fitted with uncomfortable preselectors. The 90 leyland OPD1s and 143 Albion CX19ws were basically prewar in character, full crash with 8.6 litre engines the same as the prewar TD-3/4/5 models and the late prewar CX 19 Venturers (some also had 6LW Gardners). I have generally found that crash boxes are more positive in response than the wishy washy synchro boxes of the Leyland OPD2s.

Re: Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:30 pm
by Simes
Dave Wilson wrote:There are quite a few, but the people and resources to restore them are very sparse.

The DRTT list is as follows:

1187 1935 Albion Venturer
1286 1937 AEC Regent
1379 1937 Leyland TD-4 (appears regularly at Motorfest)
1411 1937 Leyland TD-4 lowbridge (body currently on an Albion Model 80 Venturer chassis)
1438 1937 Leyland TD-5
1563 1938 Leyland TD-5
1615 1939 Albion Venturer
1635 1939 Leyland TD-5
1688 1940 AEC Regent (has appeared at Motorfest in the past a few times)
1694 1940 AEC Regent

Only two of the above are restored and capable of passenger work (1379 1688). A third (1187)although the body is completely restored, has unresolved mechanical issues particularly its ancient braking system (which may never be capable of coping adequately with modern conditions). 1688 requires refurbishment/replacement of part of its braking system and some remedial work has already been done to this end. None of the others are anywhere near restored condition. 1635 has had quite a deal of work done to it and 1615 is undergoing a comprehensive restoration process as I write.


My apologies, 1379 slipped my mind, it has been a regular over the past few years, at the time of my post I had 1187 and 1688 in mind

Re: Photo Request. Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:16 am
by Ribble
Interesting comments.....

Has anyone else got any photos please of the pre 1946 deliveries (Dave has suplied me with a selection thanks.)

All received with thanks.

Don

Re: Photo Request. Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:04 pm
by Cowra
Would there be any use in fitting a "decent" braking system to 1187? I quite like the look of it and would love to see it on the road at some stage in the future..

Re: Photo Request. Pre WW2 DRTT Deliveries. (pre DGT/UTA/STA

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:52 am
by Ribble
Amended and Updated list as above.

Assistance appreciated.

Don

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:21 am
by Ribble
First of month update....and first day of Spring...

Its been a 'quiet month in August' for collecting photos....

Can anyone assist please....????

Don
Ribble@xtra.co.nz

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:42 pm
by Ribble
First of month update.... 1st October 2011.

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:30 am
by Ribble
December 2011. Updated list at the top of the Topic.

Assistance appreciated thanks.

Don

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:23 pm
by Ribble
New Update.... Can anyone assist pelase....???

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:41 am
by Ribble
New Update.... Can anyone assist please....???

Seriously seeking a source for any PRE- War DRTT bus photos.....

Thanks

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:53 am
by Ribble
Edit and Update 2 September 2012.

Any assistance please.....

Don

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:01 am
by Ribble
1st October update.

Any help appreciated.

Re: Ongoing 3 Photo Request (2012) - DRTT pre WW2.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:08 pm
by Ribble
December update.

Any help appreciated.