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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:19 am

If the prototypes are built in Scotland, are they going to be overwidth Enviro 500 body or Kiwi body?
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:59 pm

OLYMPIAN wrote:If the prototypes are built in Scotland, are they going to be overwidth Enviro 500 body or Kiwi body?
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:48 pm

Well, i hope ADL will make a 2.5m version front for these Enviro 500 with Kiwibus.body, so they.can get a family look with the Enviro 200
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Or perhaps they just send the bodies as kits and get Kiwi to build them, but I'm under the impression that the actual chassis is too wide...

I still think it is very early days to talk about when and where a ADL Double Decker will arrive. Other than the articles stating the possibilities in the future, there hasn't been any other real big news or updates.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:57 am

Mr OC Benz wrote:Or perhaps they just send the bodies as kits and get Kiwi to build them, but I'm under the impression that the actual chassis is too wide...I still think it is very early days to talk about when and where a ADL Double Decker will arrive. Other than the articles stating the possibilities in the future, there hasn't been any other real big news or updates.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:20 am

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:45 pm

If they are Air cond vehicle, They should be Enviro 500, and I've been told they will be Enviro 500
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:20 am

OLYMPIAN wrote:If they are Air cond vehicle, They should be Enviro 500, and I've been told they will be Enviro 500
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:31 am

Is not hard to guess, with the recent purchase of air cond buses, air cond version of Enviro 400 will over weight under New.Zealand limits, they same type of buses in Hong Kong need special permit to put.them on the road, even they hv better axle limits in Hong Kong

And dont forget they have the pic of Enviro 500 on NZbus website, photoshoped from a Citybus Enviro 400
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Cordes Express » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:30 pm

Yep, I agree... They (NZBus) put the idea in our heads in the first place.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:20 pm

Cordes Express wrote:Yep, I agree... They (NZBus) put the idea in our heads in the first place.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby kaiwhara » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:51 pm

The march business report from Auckland Transport mentions it as happening.


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Cordes Express wrote:Yep, I agree... They (NZBus) put the idea in our heads in the first place.

Can anyone actually QUOTE a source for the alledged Double Deckers in Auckland.....apart from 'speculation'.....and a vague comment by the head of ADL when the E200 was first handed over.....???

My photo of the ADL E200's (In Overseas Photos) was part of the last order of 40 by NZ Bus announced almost a year ago.....

I see a Photoshop of an ADL Decker on the NZ Bus website....but nothing is clearly stated such as "ADL Double Deckers will soon be ordered" etc.... I have emailed NZ Bus for comment about the possible order....

Im sure that with the SL202 profiler and the photo we can "assume" an order will be forthcoming.....but often it may not eventuate.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:28 am

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby BUSPORN » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:17 am

I also heard the report on the radio this morning. I pressume the other company looking at double deckers in auckland is Ritchies ?. can anyone confirm this ?.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:05 am

BUSPORN wrote:I also heard the report on the radio this morning. I pressume the other company looking at double deckers in auckland is Ritchies ?. can anyone confirm this ?.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Bedford-29 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:24 am

I don`t know if this is of interest Alexander Dennis ltd (New Zealand) company number 3515131 incorporation date 23/08/2011 address 8d Enterprise drv Henderson Waitakere city Auckland 0612.And keep a eye out on the Alexander Dennis website for news.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:11 am

Bedford-29 wrote:I don`t know if this is of interest Alexander Dennis Ltd (New Zealand) company number 3515131 incorporation date 23/08/2011 address 8d Enterprise Drive Henderson Waitakere City Auckland 0612. And keep a eye out on the Alexander Dennis website for news.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:49 am

Thanks for the update

I just wondering the 9months delay, is from.when? We already pass that 9months yet?

If NZLT are going to let them.overwidth, I really hope they are using the new Enviro 500 front

And also, I wonder is it going be 4.2m high or 4.4
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:31 am

OLYMPIAN wrote:Thanks for the update
I just wondering the 9months delay, is from.when? We already pass that 9months yet?
If NZLT are going to let them.....overwidth, I really hope they are using the new Enviro 500 front
And also, I wonder is it going be 4.2m high or 4.4
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby biqua » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:02 pm

Just my opinion, but the new look doesn't do it for me - the first batch for KMB had the nicest front, and the subsequent batches are ok, but the changes to the headlight panels not quite as aesthically pleasing. The new look is just bland by comparison to either.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:25 am

It would seem that we have surely "reached a halt" in this topic....
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:15 pm

Newflash

http://busnews.co.nz/auckland-to-get-double-decker-buses/

NZ Herald:
Double decker buses will soon be a regular sight in Auckland with bus companies set to introduce the larger vehicles to keep up with ever-increasing passenger numbers.

Ritchies director Andrew Ritchie said the company had already ordered its first double decker bus, which it hoped to have on the road as a trial as soon as October.

The bus would run from Albany into central Auckland and would carry up to 114 passengers, up on the maximum 88 passengers currently.

The company said it planned to introduce 20 double decker buses in the future, all operating along North Shore routes.

It is understood NZ Bus company is also planning to introduce double decker buses.

Auckland Transport chief executive David Warburton said Dominion Rd was another possible route for the new buses.

The move had the potential to increase capacity by about 70 per cent on some of the city’s busiest routes, he said.

Before any trial could begin, issues such as the weight, height and width of the buses would need to be addressed to ensure they met national standards, he said.

Possible routes would also have to be checked for access around power lines, shop verandahs and bridges.

Mr Ritchie said the buses, which were similar to the double decker which operate in Singapore, complied with all current New Zealand transport regulations.

“We’ve been running double decker buses for about 15 years on our inter city and charter fleet but certainly, with the growing numbers on some of the routes that we run, we want to provide passengers with a bit more comfort and a bit more room,” Mr Ritchie said.

“I think they could become quite an iconic part of the Auckland landscape.”

Auckland Mayor Len Brown welcomed the idea.

“Demand for public transport in Auckland is going through the roof. New infrastructure such as the City Rail Link is vital to unclog our roads. But at the same time innovative and forward thinking proposals like this from our bus operators are great ways of maximising our existing route system. I look forward to the trial,” he said.

- APNZ


Looks like the rumour of Scania decker will come true.

Comment,when I was at the Auckland for the first time, the busways really need deckers. and now it finally come true..
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Ribble » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:42 am

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby ka9102 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:22 am

Bedford-29 wrote:I don`t know if this is of interest Alexander Dennis ltd (New Zealand) company number 3515131 incorporation date 23/08/2011 address 8d Enterprise drv Henderson Waitakere city Auckland 0612.And keep a eye out on the Alexander Dennis website for news.
http://www.alexander-dennis.com/


I guess they will soon host a website like http://www.alexander-dennis.co.nz :mrgreen:
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