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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Mr OC Benz » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:52 pm

Orewa wouldn't even have a depot big enough to turn one around!!! lol

Surely, I would've thought double deckers or normal articulated buses would be the way to go. They both have their pros and cons, articulated buses take up more road space, but are quicker to board and disembark passengers while double deckers are standard length with greater capacity, but take longer to board and disembark passengers.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:13 pm

Other kiwi discussion board saying they are still looking at the Enviro 500 instead of bendies

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby stadt80 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:09 pm

Rumours are that Double deckers are to be ordered for the Dominion and Mt Eden Road services with Scania or Volvo being potential chassis suppliers.

There is also interest by other major operators to operate Double deckers and not only in Auckland....

Lastly, Ritchies prototype Scania Double decker is due in service on the Northern Express next month as it is due to be shipped out from Singapore any day now...
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:38 pm

Strange, they work together with ADL on the deckers and now looking for other chassis

Interesting times ahead!
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:16 am

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Cordes Express » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:34 pm

I wonder if our friend Hilifta has seen the decker at the port yet???
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Can't wait!
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Vitalstatistix » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:53 am

Cordes Express wrote:I wonder if our friend Hilifta has seen the decker at the port yet???

Yep and it looks great, don't know about the colour though.

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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Bedford-29 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:10 am

The Gemilang body looks good I wonder if its the same Scania BR112DH chassis under the SBS Transit one in Singapore or a different Scania chassis.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:46 pm

Probably the same chassis as the one in SBS Transit KUD, but not 310
Maybe is K280UD

I am surprised they have a stricter GVW, and they can have a proper decker,
not like here have to use CDi's odd twin steer design
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Volvo Super Olympian » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:52 pm

NSW road rules seem to be remaining in Stone Age. It's good to see NZ quite well progressing with the decker idea with something mainstream, hopefully they will get more of them in big batches.

I don't think CDI is a sustainable product, apart from Sydney and possibly QLD, I don't think anywhere else around the world wants that twin front steer. Too niche of a product, good for gunzels but I don't think it will take off massively.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Mr OC Benz » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:56 pm

I've always had the impression that NZ had stricter road rules than most states in Australia. What does this Scania decker have that we can't have in Australia? Something like this would be perfect for some cities in Australia.

While Bustech seems to be picking up business in QLD and NSW, their products don't really get any further than that. Apart from the odd bus in SA, NT Buslink and one that ended up in WA.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:22 pm

Some operators should work together with Scania and Northcoast-Gemilang to bring this in
If 21.5t is over 20t limit, get an 11m version!

By the way, this bus is using Super Single Steel rims instead of Alcoa Alloy Wheels
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Cordes Express » Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:06 pm

OLYMPIAN wrote:Some operators should work together with Scania and Northcoast-Gemilang to bring this in
If 21.5t is over 20t limit, get an 11m version!

By the way, this bus is using Super Single Steel rims instead of Alcoa Alloy Wheels



I wonder if Kiwi would modify their Intercity spec Scania decker for a Urban version? Instead of concentrating on the AdL's
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:38 pm

Cordes Express wrote:
OLYMPIAN wrote:Some operators should work together with Scania and Northcoast-Gemilang to bring this in
If 21.5t is over 20t limit, get an 11m version!

By the way, this bus is using Super Single Steel rims instead of Alcoa Alloy Wheels



I wonder if Kiwi would modify their Intercity spec Scania decker for a Urban version? Instead of concentrating on the AdL's

I though the Kiwi already built one on ADL chassis and is ready for urban use by just putting bus typ doors on it.

Also rumours going around Howick have something to do with ADL, so they will be looking at Enviro 500?
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby stadt80 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:16 am

Ritchies Double decker is to be making a promotional appearance on Queen Street to Aotea Square tomorrow ( Wednesday 6 March ) at around about 7.30am...
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby stadt80 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:14 pm

The new Double decker at Britomart this morning with Mayor Len Brown getting comfortable in the Drivers seat!
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:58 pm

Why Northcoast badges is on the bus?
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby stadt80 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:57 am

Northcoast Bus & Coach ( Queensland ) are in partnership with Gemilang and have supplied some single deck Buses for the Australian market.
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:28 pm

Well, I hope to see Northcoast will bring this to CDC, as CDC parent company already have an exactly the same bus in Singapore
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Cordes Express » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 am

Hi there, While out at Swanson Road in West Auckland this morning, I found this sitting at the Auto Electricians.... Unfortunately I only had my Phone with me so sorry about the quality
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby OLYMPIAN » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:45 pm

Bit far away from Albany depot
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Bedford-29 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:02 am

New bus at the auto electricians. :shock:
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby Cordes Express » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:19 pm

Bedford-29 wrote:New bus at the auto electricians. :shock:


It was getting the CCTV fitted according to the guys there. This is where MOST of the Ritchies Auckland fleet get work done. They are two minutes up the road from the Swanson Rd Depot
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Re: Getting ready for the double deckers?

Postby mrobsessed » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:10 pm

That's pretty slick!
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