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Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby JRBUS123 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:29 pm

PTV have just released the new myki fares for 2018 (and they will increase from 2017's fares). Details here
https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/news-and-eve ... -for-2018/

Some areas will get quite a jump. For instance the full fare for zone 1 + 2 will increase from $8.20 to $8.60 (by 40c) which is quite a jump. Some areas though will only have a slight increase such as users on concession in zone 2. It will increase from $1.40 to $1.47 (by 7c).

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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby system improver » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:09 am

Actually, the percentage increase in the latter (5%) is greater than the increase in the former (4.9%) due to rounding rules.

Generally, there is 4.7% increase in fares, as determined by a decision of the previous Napthine government, being inflation (2.2%) plus 2.5%, although farebox in Victoria still amounts to less than 30% of operating costs.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Craig » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:16 am

Note the weekend cap is also going up, but seems to have been left off the link (political reasons?) - now $6.30 full fare and $3.15 concession (still free for various carers, seniors and pensioners)

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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby system improver » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:02 am

Craig wrote:Note the weekend cap is also going up, but seems to have been left off the link (political reasons?) - now $6.30 full fare and $3.15 concession (still free for various carers, seniors and pensioners)

I would have thought that there is positive political mileage in reminding voters of the weekend cap, albeit one that is now 30 cents per day more expensive. I can't think of any comparable city in the world with such cheap weekend fares, maybe others can. Sydney has a $2.60 Sunday cap, but nothing on Saturday. Canberra has a weekend cap ($5.59) but for a lot smaller system. Hobart has a $4.60 weekend cap, but once again for a lot smaller system. Other states charge off peak fares for weekends, but with no cap.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Mike M » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:50 am

I know that these things are never set in concrete but is this the last year of budgeted CPI + 2.5% fare increases?
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby system improver » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:14 pm

Mike M wrote:I know that these things are never set in concrete but is this the last year of budgeted CPI + 2.5% fare increases?

Then State Liberal Party Treasurer Michael O'Brien gave notice of the increase in the 2013 Budget Update. It contains this:

"Public transport fares will increase by CPI plus 2.5 per cent from 2015 to 2018, contributing to ongoing investment in the network.

The public transport weekend daily fare cap will be adjusted to $6 from 1 January 2014. The current weekend daily cap on all metropolitan public transport travel provides a significant discount to weekend travel compared to the daily weekday fare. An increase to the daily weekend cap to $6 for Zone 1 and 2 travel will better align weekend and weekday fares while still providing value for weekend travellers.

Two hour fares will expire exactly two hours after touch on from 1 July 2014. Currently, two hour public transport fares expire two hours from the start of the next full hour. The fare change reduces complexity and is easier to administer than rounding to the start of the next full hour."

So, 2018 was to be the last year.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Mike M » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:00 pm

Thank you for the detailed explanation.

Having the weekend cap frozen at $6.00 for 4 years from January 2014 until now has been a bonus.

The change to the validity of 2 hour fares in July 2014 was a sneaky way of effectively doubling the cost of many short return trips. I was surprised at the time that it was introduced with very little adverse publicity. The comment about reducing complexity was a classic piece of spin.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Roderick Smith » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:36 am

Roderick.

The death of Victoria’s trouble-plagued Myki system has begun.
News Corp Australia Network January 27, 2018.
THE death of the trouble-plagued $1.5 billion Myki ticketing system has begun with commuters to use bank cards and even their smartphones to ride from the middle of this year.
The Sunday Herald Sun can reveal the “tap and go” technology — which means travellers will eventually no longer have to shell out up to $6 for a Myki card — is to be soon trialled aboard Melbourne’s new E-class trams.
Myki readers capable of allowing people to scan on with a credit or debit card are ready to go across Victoria, including regional areas, ahead of a mass rollout.
The hi-tech trial will within months begin on either tram Routes 11, 86 or 96 which service suburbs including St Kilda, West Preston and Docklands.
MORE: Myki fares increasing in 2018 as Vic public transport costs are revealed Findings will be used to determine how the technology could be deployed across the state’s public transport network including every train station, tram and bus.
The overhaul will address a key criticism that Myki fails to cater for single-use travellers such as tourists.
It will make tapping on to services faster and eliminate the need for multiple cards.
Public Transport Minister Jacinta Allan told the Sunday Herald Sun:
“We are currently looking at a range of options to make it easier for more Victorians to use our public transport system.”
“We are always looking for ways to make the public transport system more accessible for Victorians,’’ Ms Allan said.
Myki — which the Bracks Labor government conceived in 2005 — has been riddled with problems.
It suffered a budget blowout of more than $500 million and was rolled out in late 2009 — almost three years behind schedule.
The political storm later engulfed former transport minister Lynne Kosky.
The “tap and go” revolution would incorporate 15,000 card readers statewide.
It’s understood no extra fees would apply to use a bank card.
Commuters with contactless payment technology within their smartphone or smartwatch could also use their devices to pay.
Such technology is already in use at more than 80 locations across the world including London’s transport network which uses the acclaimed Oyster card.
In London commuters can use bank cards instead of an Oyster card to travel on the capital’s transport network.
About 40 per cent of all journeys on its system are now made using contactless payment.
There are more than 15 million active Myki cards in circulation — worth a collective $90 million if each was purchased at the existing $6 cost.
Almost 400 million journeys were last year made using the ticketing system.
The Sunday Herald Sun has learned work has also begun to remove much-despised 90-minute delays in adding money to Myki cards online.
A new smartphone app is also being developed as part of the solution, which could curb fare evasion for customers caught out with no money on their card.
Myki commuters can top up their cards using machines at train stations.
The improvements are part of a new $700 million contract signed between the Andrews Government and global IT giant NTT Data to run for seven years.
University of Melbourne enterprise fellow for cyber security Dr Greg Adamson said it was important people were assured their personal details would be safe if using bank cards to travel.
“One of the problems is how do we know a particular organisation has the capacity to protect information,’’ Dr Adamson said.
“What is the mechanism to make sure the information stays where it needs to stay?”
Contactless payment is also being rolled out in NSW and Queensland.
Getting the technology to cap how much commuters pay for travel across a certain time frame has proved a sticking point and is yet to be resolved.
Myki imposes a capped limit for two-hour, daily and weekly travel.
Myki cards cost $3 for people with concession, seniors or child.
Commuters were this month hit with a 4.7 per cent fare hike.
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www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/the-dea ... c4de1e26f3
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:44 pm

Similar articles about Opal in Sydney and the Brisbane system have also appeared today. The article about Opal was riddled with errors. So I dont know whether these articles should be taken too seriously.
For instance in Sydney the fares for occasional users who using their Mastercard are higher that those for Opal and do not get discounts, hence wont have have a big impact on regular Opal users.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby system improver » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:24 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:Similar articles about Opal in Sydney and the Brisbane system have also appeared today. The article about Opal was riddled with errors. So I dont know whether these articles should be taken too seriously.
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How interesting. The story on myki is 18 months old, repeating an article that the HUN ran itself - when the contract was announced along with technology improvements. The latest story also has numerous factual errors, grist for the mill for the morons who read the HUN and comment on-line. I'm tempted to call "Fake News" but that would give "Fake News" a bad name.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:17 am

Also see https://www.danielbowen.com/2018/01/28/ ... t-options/


Reports of Myki’s death have been greatly exaggerated

Posted onSun 28 January 2018AuthorDaniel8 Comments


There’s something of a disconnect between the headlines today and the reality.

I wont bother to include the whole article.
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Re: Myki Fare Increase 2018

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:39 pm

As seen on 9 news Melbourne last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az0pG8xeh0g
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