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Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Mercedes » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:37 pm

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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Richard1207 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:31 pm

There were some unusual sightings today. A Dysons liveried bus on the 382 (#734) and two PTV liveried buses on the 566. One of them was #935 and I'm not sure about the other one but I think it was #912.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Craig » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:59 pm

Richard1207 wrote:There were some unusual sightings today. A Dysons liveried bus on the 382 (#734) and two PTV liveried buses on the 566. One of them was #935 and I'm not sure about the other one but I think it was #912.


My occasional observations in the north suggest the use on PTV buses is not being confined to the various Dysons routes added over 2016 - they often seem to show up on routes such as 513, 564 or 569.

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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby krustyklo » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:22 pm

My occasional observations in the north suggest the use on PTV buses is not being confined to the various Dysons routes added over 2016 - they often seem to show up on routes such as 513, 564 or 569.

I can confirm. Last Thursday at least one PTV liveried vehicle was on the 569, and I also noted the PTV vehicles mentioned on the 566 today. I have also noted PTV liveried buses on the 517 at least twice over January (unsurprising given they interwork with the 566).
Equally, there were more Dysons liveried buses on the 381 and 385 last Thursday than PTV liveried buses.

I think it safe to assume that Dysons is taking a leaf out of Transdev's book... :wink:
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Richard1207 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:40 pm

krustyklo wrote:
I think it safe to assume that Dysons is taking a leaf out of Transdev's book... :wink:

That's what it looks like, even ex Reservoir #760 was on the 385 about 2 weeks ago.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Richard1207 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:55 pm

There were more today as #828 was on the 382, PTV buses #887, #918 & #929 were on the 566 and #920 was on the 567.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Richard1207 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:29 pm

The PTV liveried buses are now appearing on the ex Reservoir routes too. Earlier today I caught #919 and #920 on the 556 and I also saw one of them on the 552 but it was too far to see the number. I haven't seen PTV liveried buses on these routes before today.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby krustyklo » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:10 pm

The PTV liveried buses are now appearing on the ex Reservoir routes too.

At the risk of being pedantic, the 575 was an ex-Reservoir route which has obviously seen PTV liveried vehicles, and also the 577 which is still current.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby red baron » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:52 am

Dysons Trainlink Scania i6 Irizar 874 will be heading back north very shortly.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Desto Dave » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:03 pm

The Dyson group has taken ownership of O'Connells of Omeo as from 1/4/17, this includes the 'Alps Link' PTV service, between Bright, Mt Hotham and Omeo.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby 1whoknows » Sat May 06, 2017 8:06 pm

Dysons have now taken over Shepparton Transit from Fallons with 44 buses.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Craig » Sun May 07, 2017 1:51 am

1whoknows wrote:Dysons have now taken over Shepparton Transit from Fallons with 44 buses.


I had heard the takeover doesn't take place until 1 June? But a big acquisition regardless.

Wonder if the Shepp Transit fleet will make a return appearance on a level crossing removal rail shutdown but now in Dysons colours?

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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby josh01 » Sun May 07, 2017 9:39 am

So im guessing dysons is the second biggest bus company in
Melbourne ???
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby 1whoknows » Sun May 07, 2017 3:18 pm

takeover date of 1 June is correct with things in transition during May.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby krustyklo » Sun May 07, 2017 3:21 pm

So im guessing dysons is the second biggest bus company in Melbourne ???


Did you mean Victoria?

It certainly seems that whilst Ventura and others focussed on Melbourne acquisitions, Dysons have been smart and looked for acquisitions elsewhere in Victoria. Possibly better value acquisitions too by direct sales of smaller country operators instead of popular auctions of former Melbourne operators which would bid the price up. Yet still close by enough to allow for economies of scale and adequate managerial supervision - Victoria is a small state geographically.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby 1whoknows » Tue May 09, 2017 8:38 am

Following a trend begun in NSW where Punchbowl took over Goulburn B.S. and Forest have now acquired two operations around Coffs Harbour. Not to mention Busways having taken over all those North Coast towns that were ruined by the King bros.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Alex on the Bus » Tue May 09, 2017 10:08 am

1whoknows wrote:Following a trend begun in NSW where Punchbowl took over Goulburn B.S. and Forest have now acquired two operations around Coffs Harbour. Not to mention Busways having taken over all those North Coast towns that were ruined by the King bros.


Surely the granddaddy of that would be JA Gilbert (now the Buslines Group) holding Shorelink as well as a string of regional operators?
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby E.L.Wood » Tue May 09, 2017 1:18 pm

Alex on the Bus wrote:
1whoknows wrote:Following a trend begun in NSW where Punchbowl took over Goulburn B.S. and Forest have now acquired two operations around Coffs Harbour. Not to mention Busways having taken over all those North Coast towns that were ruined by the King bros.


Surely the granddaddy of that would be JA Gilbert (now the Buslines Group) holding Shorelink as well as a string of regional operators?

Except the Buslines group sold Shorelink to Transdev many years back
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Alex on the Bus » Tue May 09, 2017 8:15 pm

E.L.Wood wrote:Except the Buslines group sold Shorelink to Transdev many years back


I meant it as a historical example - I should have been more clear about that.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby stajourneyman » Tue May 09, 2017 8:21 pm

1whoknows wrote:Dysons have now taken over Shepparton Transit from Fallons with 44 buses.


That takeover strikes me as a bit odd.

Given that Fallon's have various fleets across northern Victoria, and seem to have been expanding in recent years to somewhere between 130 and 150 units, you would imagine they would've sold either the lot or nothing.

To sell their Shepparton Transit operation and then be left with their smaller peripheral fleets doesn't seem to make sense.

I'm sure Dysons would've taken the lot if they could've.

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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby paulgersche » Tue May 09, 2017 8:36 pm

Don't forget that Driver sold off their track work to CDC, but kept the School / Charter operation.

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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Alstom 888M » Wed May 10, 2017 12:29 pm

Maybe we're going to get another "Grow or Go" so smaller operators are selling up before they lose their businesses by force. On the other hand charter operation might be more profitable.
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Volvo_B9R » Thu May 11, 2017 5:49 am

1whoknows wrote:Following a trend begun in NSW where Punchbowl took over Goulburn B.S. and Forest have now acquired two operations around Coffs Harbour. Not to mention Busways having taken over all those North Coast towns that were ruined by the King bros.


Trend begun in NSW?
Haven't dysons owned country operations for years before those others? Bairnsdale, Moama & Kyneton to name a few!!
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby krustyklo » Thu May 11, 2017 9:36 pm

Haven't dysons owned country operations for years before those others? Bairnsdale, Moama & Kyneton to name a few!!

Bairnsdale definitely since some time in the 90s (possibly earlier) - I recall finding it odd when I got married in 1999 having our honeymoon in Lakes Entrance - and seeing the same bus models and livery as the ones I had just left behind in Greensborough!
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Re: Dyson Group News 2017

Postby Mitch » Fri May 12, 2017 11:12 am

paulgersche wrote:Don't forget that Driver sold off their track work to CDC, but kept the School / Charter operation.

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As did Wangaratta Coachlines when Dysons took over that region.

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