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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:13 pm

New local area maps effective April 2012 are now available from the PTV website for the following municipalities:
  • Banyule
  • Cardinia
  • Casey
  • Greater Dandenong
  • Darebin
  • Manningham
  • Melbourne
  • Nilumbik
  • Whittlesea
  • Yarra

These updated maps cover the cessation of 350 back in January, the new stations at South Morang, Cardinia Rd & Lynbrook and extensive bus network changes in the northern suburbs thaqt commenced on April 22.

The Whittlesea map has corrected several minor errors on the version that made it into the brochure regarding the changes. The Greater Dandenong map has not been updated to delete the 691 extension to Monash Uni, and the Melbourne map continues to omit the 238 inter-peak deviation into South Wharf.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Sun May 06, 2012 7:17 pm

Further to my above post, April 2012 maps have also been issued for:
  • Brimbank
  • Melton
  • Wyndham

These detail the latest route change to 400 in Derrimut.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:23 pm

September 2012 maps are now online for both Moonee Valley & Moreland, wiping away any trace of 509 along Hope St.

New map still pending for Yarra.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:31 pm

An updated Yarra map is also now available dated September 2012.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am

November 2012 maps have surfaced online for Brimbank, Hume, Melbourne, Moonee Valley, Moreland, Wyndham & Yarra.

These updates feature changes to Routes 454, 541 & 542 & electrification to Sunbury. The extension of Route 95 lunchtime shuttles to Central Pier Docklands & changes to NightRider routes at Crown Casino have not been incorporated though.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:36 pm

Recent local area map updates with recent network changes in June and new interchange at Chadstone last week:

June 2015:
Brimbank - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... nk_LAM.pdf
Hobsons Bay - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... ay_LAM.pdf
Hume - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... me_LAM.pdf
Melton - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... on_LAM.pdf
Wyndham - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... am_LAM.pdf

August 2015:
Bayside - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... de_LAM.pdf
Glen Eira - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... ra_LAM.pdf
Monash - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... sh_LAM.pdf
Stonnington - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... on_LAM.pdf

No updated map has surfaced yet for Moreland, Hume, Moonee Valley or Whittlesea showing the 'temporary' Route 560.

More interesting however is the remark that PTV will progressively be creating local area style maps for the major cities of regional Victoria, with Geelong and Bendigo the first areas to receive these maps.

Bellarine Peninsula - June 2015 - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/B ... 15_LAM.pdf
Bendigo - October 2014 - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/L ... rk_Map.pdf
Geelong - June 2015 - http://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/G ... 15_LAM.pdf

As these are to scale & much more legible than the schematic maps produced for most other regional centres, this is a very welcome decision. The Bendigo map includes the McIvor Transit services through Junortoun.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:59 am

New LAMs for the new Spring St bus lane have been published.

Melbourne - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... ne_LAM.pdf
Port Phillip - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... ip_LAM.pdf
Yarra - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... ra_LAM.pdf

They are dated August 2015, reflecting the previous planned start date.

I notice the map is showing the wrong location for the Crown NightRider stops.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:59 pm

Updated maps have since appeared for Melbourne & Port Phillip, removing reference to the Crown NightRider terminus, and simply adding a 970 tag on Queensbridge St.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:50 pm

Checking see if the new maps are online for Night Bus and 509/561 changes next week, noticed there was a new Hume map issued on 30 November account of the new Airport interchange and previous route change mid year with buses now heading along Airport Dr - the alignment of Link Rd however has not been updated to reflect reality.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:06 pm

New January 2016 local area maps are now online for most areas other than Darebin & Melbourne - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/getting-around/local-areas/

These show the new Night Bus routes, the re-introduction of 509 and the extension of 561 west to Pasoce Vale.

The alignment of Link Rd near the Airport has now been fixed.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:20 pm

Darebin & Melbourne maps now online.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:28 pm

Recent local area map updates:

Brimbank - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Loca ... nk_LAM.pdf - includes 476 deviation into Keilor Cemetery

Melton - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Loca ... on_LAM.pdf - includes 476 extension to Plumpton & new 460 terminus at Caroline Springs.

Moonee Valley - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Loca ... nk_LAM.pdf - includes 476 deviation into Keilor Cemetery

Whittlesea - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Loca ... ea_LAM.pdf - new 356, 357 & 358 for Epping North & Wollert

Bendigo - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PDFs/Maps ... rk-Map.pdf - new map for new network, updated version includes the 'last minute' 71 loop (explained here)

Geelong - January 2016 - https://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/PDFs/Maps ... etwork.pdf - changes to 41 & 42 at Waurn Ponds Station, Route 10 extension to Corio Village made full time again. Changes actually started 1 February 2016.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:24 am

Updates for the new university shuttles that commenced in the past week:

201 (Box Hill - Deakin Uni (Burwood campus)) is now shown on the following maps:
Monash - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Stonnington - pending update
Whitehorse - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... se_LAM.pdf

301 (Reservoir - LaTrobe Uni (Bundoora campus)) is now shown on the following maps:
Banyule - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Darebin - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Whittlesea - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf

403 (Footscray - University of Melbourne (Parkville campus)) & relocated 402 terminus at Footscray is now shown on the following maps:
Brimbank - pending update
Maribyrnong - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... ng_LAM.pdf
Melbourne - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Moonee Valley - pending update
Yarra - pending update

887 (Rosebud - Monash Uni (Peninsula campus)) is now shown on the following maps:
Frankston - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Mornington Peninsula - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf

The Yarra Ranges map was not updated to show 670 truncated to terminate at Lilydale Marketplace when SUT (Swinburne University of Technology) closed in mid 2013, but a new map has not been issued to shown the institution reopening as Box Hill Institute (Lilydale Lakeside campus) last week.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Mon May 02, 2016 12:08 pm

New Nillumbik & Whittlesea maps effective May 2016 can now be downloaded, showing the new 381 bus and re-routing of 567 in East Preston.

Unfortunately, the 381 is not shown at Diamond Creek on the Whittlesea map.
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PTV have turned off the hyperlinks for the Darebin and Banyule maps, presumably updated maps will appear in the coming days.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:26 pm

To coincide with the new Plenty Valley network, PTV has issued July 2016 maps for the following municipalities:
Banyule - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Darebin - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... in_LAM.pdf
Manningham - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf
Nillumbik - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... ik_LAM.pdf
Whittlesea - http://ptv.vic.gov.au/assets/Maps/Local ... M_2016.pdf

The 381 is now shown at Diamond Creek on the Whittlesea map.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:35 pm

The Greater Dandenong & Kingston LAMs have been updated for the extension of 709 to Noble Park, but are both dated October 2016. They incorrectly do not show the 709 as entering Parkmore Shopping Centre. The AM peak extension of 691 to Monash Uni is still shown despite being cancelled nearly 5 years ago...

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby stajourneyman » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:43 pm

Is there currently a Melbourne wide map showing all tram,train and bus routes?

I haven't seen any mention of one in this thread.
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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:29 pm

stajourneyman wrote:Is there currently a Melbourne wide map showing all tram,train and bus routes?

I haven't seen any mention of one in this thread.


The Melbourne-wide map has not been issued since January 2006, the 31 local area maps have replaced it.

They were initially available in fold-out guides, but the last one was reported was the Hume map dated December 2010.

Since then the local area maps have been they have largely been limited to the online PDFs, however they sometimes appear in brochures issued promoting network changes.

Even the versions for stops produced for display at stops have largely been discontinued - most tram stops only have localised maps showing locations of nearby myki retailers (produced on Google Map backgrounds), while bus stops now get a information sheet explaining myki if there is a empty timetable case, with the old local area maps progressively removed as new timetables are installed.

Local councils & universities additionally produce TravelSmart maps from time-to-time, which also show public transport, cycle & walking routes on Melway backgrounds. You can find many of them online using this handy list on the Vicroads website - https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/traffic ... route-maps - these maps are still produced in hard-copy fold-out formats and are often available at council service centres, libraries etc.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby stajourneyman » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:39 am

I find it hard to fathom why they wouldn't have one available.

Surely it would be the most basic necessity for anybody travelling out of their own local area.

I recall the very first one, produced in 1971 (yes, they had public transport back then!).

This was just after they re-numbered Melbourne's bus routes, with the Tramways Board bus routes numbered from 200 to 399, and the privates from 400 to 899. In addition, the the two Victorian Railways bus routes were numbered 901 and 902(?).

It was a very clear and easy map to read.

So, based on the difficulty that board members have had, it seems like a nigh on impossible task for the average traveller to get a full set of hard copy local travel guides.

Gee..., that'll encourage users to the network!
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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:15 pm

While I agree the $2 fold out map was a fantastic imitative, given the rate of major changes that has been occurring with the network over the past decade now, a hard-copy network wide map would become obsolete before many copies are sold - you'd have to issue a new one roughly every 3 to 6 months. It is disappointing that PTV have stopped producing the fold-out guides for each council area, they should be delivered to each household with any network change and available freely at stations and shopping centres.

One improvement PTV map in recent months for those looking for the maps online is a suburb index linking to the relevant council area - previously it was assumed that you knew what councils you were travelling in, which was a stretch. Not to say this list is perfect, it lists rural places on the city outskirts like Christmas Hills and Nutfield that are not covered by public transport at all.

I note there was only one attempt to produce a network -wide map book for Sydney in the late 90s, you also need to rely on region-based maps (which often omit other operators' services on the region boundaries).

In Brisbane there is no overall network maps covering the complex BT network in the inner suburbs, there are only schematic maps for each of the busway corridors, a network map for the BUZ routes and another for the NightLink network, but nothing showing the detail of what runs in each suburb. The middle-outer suburbs are at least served with schematic network maps, although some versions end up overly cluttered (eg this one for the Logan (Southern) region)

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby krustyklo » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:39 pm

While I agree the $2 fold out map was a fantastic imitative, given the rate of major changes that has been occurring with the network over the past decade now, a hard-copy network wide map would become obsolete before many copies are sold - you'd have to issue a new one roughly every 3 to 6 months.


Wasn't much different to when they were produced! To be fair, the lead time for producing a printed network map in the days prior to ubiquitous computerisation with easy to use graphical based software packages would have been significant with route modifications possibly having fluid introduction dates based on funding, plans running to schedule, etc. Then of course it depends on the lead time required by the government printer to fit printing the map into their schedule. Still, you'd think that nowadays with the maps being in digital format, presumably with easier to use, more efficient software, and significantly improved printing processes and technology, that it would be a reason to keep printing them as it would be less problematic than back in the 70s and 80s.

It is disappointing that PTV have stopped producing the fold-out guides for each council area, they should be delivered to each household with any network change and available freely at stations and shopping centres.

Agreed. I also remember when the Travelsmart initiative was around, I have maps somewhere of the Banyule area delivered to our letterbox, as well as the LaTrobe Uni version. Better still were the timetable booklets from the early 90s which included both a local area route map AND the relevant timetables. It seemed to die a quick, quiet death...

Still, I wonder how much this sort of information has been replaced by online journey planners and the like? Certainly if I'm planning a journey nowadays, I certainly don't get out a map and set of timetables like the old days - I fire up Moovit or Offi and see what they suggest. Ditto Google Maps or the PTV app, although I find the official app painful to use apart from instant stop departure times (when Moovit has stopped showing realtime data for the month), and Google Maps surprisingly sucks at finding and showing journey options compared to any of the apps! If the majority of people use online options, then it could be argued print versions of information are of secondary importance to provide. Certainly I use the realtime data to plan when to leave work to catch the bus rather than go to the stop with the screen to find out there isn't a 902 for 25 minutes. I wonder if that is now common enough that printed information is becoming irrelevant?

I might add I'm in my 40s, not some 20 year old Millenial who has grown up with the internet before anyone suggests using apps and the internet is a generational thing, and I'm hardly alone in my age group planning journeys this way!
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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:47 pm

The Bendigo Local Area map has been updated to reflect the route changes that took place on Route 60 on Monday, however the arrows at the extended East Bendigo terminus incorrectly show the bus running anti-clockwise not clockwise. The effective date in the left-hand corner has also not been updated, it is still shown as April 2016.

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Heihachi_73 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:23 am

krustyklo wrote:
While I agree the $2 fold out map was a fantastic imitative, given the rate of major changes that has been occurring with the network over the past decade now, a hard-copy network wide map would become obsolete before many copies are sold - you'd have to issue a new one roughly every 3 to 6 months.
Still, you'd think that nowadays with the maps being in digital format, presumably with easier to use, more efficient software, and significantly improved printing processes and technology, that it would be a reason to keep printing them as it would be less problematic than back in the 70s and 80s.
But the poor diddums with their iPhones would have to put them away to look at paper material!

That said, the PTV don't give you a choice - the printed versions are pretty much the PDFs on the website rather than using a format a bit more usable on the screen. As with all government websites in this country; maybe they have shares in Adobe. I'm sure it's by design, as the government seems to have an affinity to printed material over other media, I suppose it goes with all of their other antiquated ways, such as keeping their businesses closed on Sundays (e.g. Australia Post).
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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:26 pm

Heihachi_73 wrote:That said, the PTV don't give you a choice - the printed versions are pretty much the PDFs on the website rather than using a format a bit more usable on the screen. As with all government websites in this country; maybe they have shares in Adobe.


I think using PDF format is a necessary evil given the various operating systems that exist, afterall PDF is a universal standard for hosting documents online. I've never found them an inconvenient format given you can zoom to suit your screen size. Those websites that use other formats are the ones that frustrate me, eg the online ePaper viewer that Leader Newspapers use.

Furthermore, these days anyone can create and read PDFs without using Adobe software. As Wikipedia sums it up "Anyone may create applications that can read and write PDF files without having to pay royalties to Adobe Systems; Adobe holds patents to PDF, but licenses them for royalty-free use in developing software complying with its PDF specification."

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Re: Metlink Local Travel Guides

Postby Craig » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:45 pm

An October 2016 LAM has been issued for Hume showing the new 543 service between Roxburgh Park and Greenvale Gardens.

Link - https://static.ptv.vic.gov.au/Maps/Loca ... me-LAM.pdf

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