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Re: Victorian Rail & Tram Observations 2017

Postby Mitch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:10 pm

It's events like today and the "unconnected track and train faults" that knocked out the entire north-eastern sector of the network at the end of May that puts into perspective why so many people in Melbourne drive, rather than commute. And it really shows how much of an absolute disaster consecutive governments have turned the Melbourne rail network into.

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Re: Victorian Rail & Tram Observations 2017

Postby neilrex » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:17 am

And more shambles today...


It seems a bit pathetic that the response to, for example today, a defective level crossing, is to shut down the railway.

Get some of those yellow barriers from the council and close the road.

Or get a few coppers with orange batons.

And, if you really must, get the train drivers to slow down to 20 km/hr until the boom gate is repaired.

Don't stop the trains !
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Re: Victorian Rail & Tram Observations 2017

Postby Bus Suggestions » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:12 pm

Provide the cops with those STOP/SLOW signs so they can do traffic control at the crossing!

If possible, run trains from City Loop to the closest station, then provide people with emergency rail replacement buses the rest of the way!
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Re: Victorian Rail & Tram Observations 2017

Postby Mitch » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:04 am

Given that the level crossing in question is immediately next to a major intersection (Swan St/Madden Gve), so much so that there is an emergency runaway bay if you get stuck in the crossing if the traffic signals of the intersection are red and the booms come down, the safest option would have been to suspend the railway until the defective boom gate was repaired.

But AFAIK in general situations the correct protocol is to slow to a specific speed and proceed through the crossing if the level crossing is defective. That was the case several years ago when a huge power surge knocked out level crossings in the Geelong area.

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Re: Victorian Rail & Tram Observations 2017

Postby Craig » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:00 pm

In the case of the incident at Madden Gr yesterday, the line was only suspended for about 15 mins before they decided the damage didn't impede the operation of trains.

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Postby Roderick Smith » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:21 pm

Police are now as useless as railway operators 'We can't cope, we don't try, we don't care'.
There was a time when trains and road vehicles could be worked through failed booms at low speed; no longer.
'Seek alternative route' from one. 'Seek alternative transport' from the other. There is no sanity, anywhere.
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97 km/h over 40 km/h points & 15 km/h signalling

Postby Roderick Smith » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:49 am

There is something wrong here. Under VR rules, the bottom light in R/R/Y wouldn't come up until a train had been in an approach circuit for a finite time. This should have been a spad.
Newspapers always panic about going above speed limits. There is a huge margin between comfort and derailing, and this one didn't derail, despite VR's inadequate points on a mainline.

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Train travelling at 97km/h as it passed through crossing loop with 15km/h speed limit [over 40 km/h points], report finds.
Herald Sun July 11, 2017.
A V/LINE driver on a final written warning sped through a passing loop at Wallan at more than 80km/h greater than the signalled speed, a damning report has found.
Passengers, including a person in a wheelchair, were thrown violently from their seats as the Melbourne to Albury service entered the Wallan crossing loop at high speed to allow a Melbourne-bound train to pass two years ago today.
Despite passing two low-speed approach signals, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) report revealed the train entered the crossing loop — which had a 15km/h speed limit — at about 97km/h.
The train swayed violently as it crossed onto the loop track, causing some passengers to be thrown from their seats and requiring on-board medical attention.
After a buffet car attendant reported the incident to V/Line operations, the driver attempted to ‘downplay’ the incident for fear of reprisals and asked that the regional driver supervisor not be notified.
On arrival at Seymour, the driver of service 8625 was questioned by the supervisor about the “rough ride” at Wallan.
The driver, who was on notice over a number of incidents attributed to a lack of concentration including SPADs (signals passed at danger) and a failure to stop at platforms, told the supervisor that the train was “going a bit quick over the points” at Wallan.
He failed to mention that he was entering the loop road at the time.
After a ticking off, the driver was allowed to continue his journey.
At Euroa, some people approached the conductor about passengers showing signs of discomfort and stress due to the earlier incident.
A V/Line driver sped through a passing loop at Wallan, a report found. This is not the train involved in the incident. Picture:File.
The conductor arranged for an ambulance to meet the train at Benalla, where a decision was made to relieve the driver of his duties.
Ambulance officers treated some of the injured passengers, including children, for minor injuries with one passenger and their carer taken to a nearby hospital.
The ATSB report found that the driver did not demonstrate effective train handling techniques when approaching a signal displaying a low speed aspect.
“As a result, 8625 traversed the points at a speed significantly greater than the allowable engineering speed,” the report said.
“In addition, the driver did not immediately report the severity of the incident to the Australian Rail Track Corporation train control or V/Line.
“As a result, the possibility of infrastructure damage exposed trains travelling on the standard gauge at Wallan to potentially elevated safety risk.
“The ATSB also found that V/Line did not have a procedure in place that specifically required other V/Line employees to report incidents in the event that a driver did not.”
The report said the regional driver supervisor should have relieved the driver at Seymour due to the severity of the incident, his effort in trying to ‘downplay’ the incident, and his poor driving history.
V/Line chief executive James Pinder said it took all reports and investigations from the Australian Transport Safety Bureau very seriously.
“We have been assisting the ATSB as part of the two-year investigation into this incident and have taken several steps to help prevent this type of incident from occurring again,” Mr Pinder said.
“V/Line has reviewed its driver monitoring processes, which includes operational history, and a more stringent driver recruitment process has been implemented.
“We are also developing a new system to support appropriate management of driver competence.
“V/Line’s internal processes and procedures have been updated to ensure incidents are reported by other staff in situations where a driver may not have reported an incident.”
Narrow miss for V/Line train.
V/LINE SORRY FOR PACKED GEELONG TRAINS.
V/LINE CONDUCTORS VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED BY PASSENGER.
V/LINE GEELONG: TRAVEL TIME FAILS TO IMPROVE.
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'Regional' rail funding

Postby Roderick Smith » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:07 pm

This really should have had its own thread, away from daily observations, but too late.

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Federal regional rail cash still ‘not enough’: Opposition

Herald Sun July 12, 2017.
•Victoria regional rail to get $1.6b injection
A MASSIVE injection of federal funding into Victorian regional rail projects has still left the state short of receiving its fair share, the Opposition says.
An analysis by Labor shows Victoria is only receiving 12 per cent of the federal infrastructure budget, even after the Turnbull Government agreed to spend an extra $500 million on rail upgrades last month.
Opposition transport and infrastructure spokesman Anthony Albanese, who is in Melbourne today, says Victoria would get an extra $3 billion over four years if funding matched up with the size of the state’s population.
A massive injection of federal funding into Victorian regional rail projects has still left the state short of receiving its fair share, the Opposition says. Generic picture: Supplied
He said the government “continues to rip off Victorians”.
“They deserve a fairer share of nation building investment to keep pace with population growth and underpin economic and jobs growth,” Mr Albanese said.
“However, for four years the federal Coalition has refused to back Victoria on infrastructure investment, despite its critical importance to the state’s economic development.”
The federal government has offered Victoria $3 billion if it builds the East West Link, and has been frustrated by the state government’s refusal to accept its support for projects such as the Melbourne Metro Rail Tunnel.
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* What on earth did Bracks spend all those millions on VFT years ago? Besides ripping up the electrification to Warragul?
* It probably isn't after successive governments for many, many years supplying only half the required rail budget for rail operations and maintenance. But it's a start and should be applauded not cheap political points scored.
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Near hit, driver carries on bravely

Postby Roderick Smith » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:16 pm

Metro train driver’s emotional PA announcement captivates passengers.
Aaron Langmaid, Herald Sun Thurs.20.7.17.
• Melbourne’s train horns don’t meet recommended standard for sound
• $1b awarded for new trains and rail signals for Melbourne
• Melbourne trains grind to a halt due to computer glitch
• Government tipped to offer Metro fresh contract to run rail network
A MELBOURNE train driver’s emotional announcement over the intercom of a packed city-bound train sparked an incredible reaction from passengers on their morning commute.
The Metro employee was hugged by scores of passengers after the train arrived at Flinders Street Station this morning.
It followed a teary announcement explaining why the service was delayed.
The woman had been driving a Frankston Line express when she narrowly avoided hitting a pedestrian who skipped through a level crossing at Parkdale around 8:15am.
Passengers hug a Metro train driver who was overcome with emotion during this morning's peak hour commute.
The near-miss proved all too much for the driver who used the train’s PA to explain that she had “almost hit somebody’’ and had been awake for hours.
“I’ve been on since 2am, I get it,” she said.
“I want to get you guys to work. I want to go home myself.
“Nobody needs to tap their watches or clap their hands ... you don’t know why the trains are running late.
“I’m sorry for that. I’m sorry for the fact we are running so late.
“Like I said, be grateful for the fact this train even ran ...
The driver became emotional after revelling she’d almost hit a passenger crossing the tracks.
“To everybody who has been lovely and hasn’t decided to do all these passive aggressive things or get on the PA and abuse me, you’ve been fantastic I truly appreciate and thank you very much for your patience.”
The extraordinary announcement drew puzzled looks from commuters but others were quick to approach her to show their support when the train eventually pulled into the final platform.
She cried as she was hugged by strangers in the emotional scene.
The train driver’s mother took to Facebook to share her thanks.
“Thank you all so much for comforting my beautiful daughter,” she wrote, before adding her daughter was very appreciative of the kindness being shown to her.
The driver’s mum said she was “very proud” but couldn’t say more due to the media policy of Metro Trains.
Metro spokeswoman Sammie Black said support services were in place to help drivers involved with near misses and fatalities.
Scores of passengers hugged the train driver after her emotional announcement.
“We are extremely grateful for all the well wishes and care shown towards our driver who was involved in a near hit,’’ she said.
“We will be passing every message onto her and we know that she has been very appreciative of the support received.
“Our team is focused on ensuring our driver’s wellbeing, as part of our trauma assistance program.’’
Ms Black said drivers were unable to swerve or stop quickly and such incidents can have a traumatic effect.
“It’s especially important to take care around level crossings, for both cars and pedestrians,’’ she said.
“If the boom gates are down then it is unsafe to cross, even if a train appears to be some distance away.’’
She said the driver had been met by a manager and took a short break before continuing.
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Coupler riding.

Postby Roderick Smith » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:49 am

Police investigating YouTube video showing person sitting on back of moving train.
Herald Sun Sun.23.7.17.
A DANGEROUS daredevil is under police investigation after the risk-taker released footage showing themselves dangerously sitting on the back of a moving train.
The video, released on YouTube, shows the person climbing on to the back of a train at West Footscray station.
The act, known as “coupler riding”, is described by Metro Trains as “extremely risky behaviour”.
Footage shows the train leaving West Footscray station and then beginning to move quickly.
The person handles a mobile phone while sitting outside the carriage.
A train rider points at the Tottenham Station sign during their dangerous act. Picture: YouTube This is an act Metro Trains said was “dangerous and unlawful”.
While travelling between stations on the Sunbury line train, the offender points the camera toward the tracks, showing just how fast the train is moving.
A Metro Trains spokesperson confirmed police are investigating the matter.
“We work closely with Victoria Police to investigate any unlawful and unsafe behaviour.
“It is always very concerning to see people behaving so recklessly as they risk their lives or serious injury.
“The railway is only dangerous for those that choose to take these types of risks”.
Metro asks passengers who witness this type of irresponsible to call triple-0 or press the emergency button on train carriages or on platforms.
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