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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Stu » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:58 pm

^ Okay thanks.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Mboi84 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:10 pm

Just noticed a orange and white busways north coast bus heading west towards penrith. Says it's busways north coast but I like the colour scheme. Not sure what it's doing down here though.

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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Stonesourscotty » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:18 pm

Was it a custom bodied bus? As penrith do inspections for other busways depots on custom bodied stock
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:41 pm

More likely a new delivery as the orange and white buses are based away from Sydney.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby ay7744 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:14 pm

Fleet List is showing that Forest Coach Lines has 3x MAN ND323F Gemilang DD's on order, what routes does Forest plan to utilise these new DDs on, do they really need more DDs? Also are these DDs going to have USB chargers like the B-Line ones?
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:20 am

ay7744 wrote:Fleet List is showing that Forest Coach Lines has 3x MAN ND323F Gemilang DD's on order, what routes does Forest plan to utilise these new DDs on, do they really need more DDs? Also are these DDs going to have USB chargers like the B-Line ones?


I'd like to know myself, given Forest's hardly makes use of the double decker anyway as it is. Forest rather uniquely also has those Custom CB60 artics for high capacity travel, for some reason I like them much better than their STA counterparts, but these days they're unfortunately a weekday peak hour exclusivity. I see Forest is also ordering even more CB80's - my least favourite CB80's are actually in fact Forest's. They all sound and look the same, and the seats are horrible. The Bustech is lovely however

Looks like the Gemilang body is proving popular with TfNSW, B-line fleet, then a moderate sized order of standard buses as a welcome gift for the TSA R6 contract and now more Gemilang deckers.'

Surely deckers will become somewhat more redundant when the Metro North West very soon opens? Do we know yet what will happen with the CDC network as we do for rough plans for Eastern Suburbs buses after light rail opens?
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Glen » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:13 am

Jurassic_Joke wrote:Surely deckers will become somewhat more redundant when the Metro North West very soon opens? Do we know yet what will happen with the CDC network as we do for rough plans for Eastern Suburbs buses after light rail opens?

I'd imagine they'll still be busy on the 607X.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Daniel » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:31 am

Additional new Hillsbus CDis are also in build at the moment.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby swtt » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:40 am

Glen wrote:
Jurassic_Joke wrote:Surely deckers will become somewhat more redundant when the Metro North West very soon opens? Do we know yet what will happen with the CDC network as we do for rough plans for Eastern Suburbs buses after light rail opens?

I'd imagine they'll still be busy on the 607X.


I can see 607x eventually going fully DD one day - the T-way has taken years to build up patronage, but it's now very healthy.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby J_Busworth » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:21 pm

My Grandfather lives near the Abbott T-Way stop, he claims that unless the 607x service is operators by a decker or is too full to get on unless it’s late at night. For him (and a few other stops) the NW Metro is too far to be quicker than the existing bus service. Even if deckers were to become redundant, they would be idiotic to remove the 607x in its entirety
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby MotorOmnibus8562 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:59 pm

J_Busworth wrote:My Grandfather lives near the Abbott T-Way stop, he claims that unless the 607x service is operators by a decker or is too full to get on unless it’s late at night. For him (and a few other stops) the NW Metro is too far to be quicker than the existing bus service. Even if deckers were to become redundant, they would be idiotic to remove the 607x in its entirety


Sydney is growing city and I think it’s best to keep the deckers considering all these new development areas.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby mandonov » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:52 pm

Jurassic_Joke wrote: Do we know yet what will happen with the CDC network as we do for rough plans for Eastern Suburbs buses after light rail opens?

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From the Showground, Bella Vista, and Kellyville Precinct Plans:

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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby BroadGauge » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 pm

PBC Goulburn are using 1549 MO, which is a Scania K280IB/Higer A30 coach, to provide the town services today instead of the usual low floor.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby tonyp » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:53 pm

BroadGauge wrote:PBC Goulburn are using 1549 MO, which is a Scania K280IB/Higer A30 coach, to provide the town services today instead of the usual low floor.

Perhaps it's Goulburn's wheelchair and pram-free day. I boarded one of these coachy things on a rail substitution at Kiama recently and I had difficulty getting up the stairs. It was like a ladder. Getting out I swung myself down on my arms using the rails, navy-style!
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Lenny » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:44 am

Premier Charters and Dions Bus Service in Wollongong regulary make use of their Volgren Endura high floor on public routes quite often too.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby crazyturbo76 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:29 pm

Spotted Transit Systems' 1210 (an ex T-way "first-series" B12BLE, ex-1535 IIRC) with a different type of Coachair air-conditioning pod on the top today; the pod looks more like the ones on CDC's recent batch of B7s than the standard Coachair pods found on most of the STA 14xx and 15xx B12BLEs. Is TSA refurbing their ex-STA B12BLEs with new A/C systems or something? This is the first time I've seen something like this to be honest.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:24 pm

crazyturbo76 wrote:Spotted Transit Systems' 1210 (an ex T-way "first-series" B12BLE, ex-1535 IIRC) with a different type of Coachair air-conditioning pod on the top today; the pod looks more like the ones on CDC's recent batch of B7s than the standard Coachair pods found on most of the STA 14xx and 15xx B12BLEs. Is TSA refurbing their ex-STA B12BLEs with new A/C systems or something? This is the first time I've seen something like this to be honest.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Stonesourscotty » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:08 pm

So Busways are delivering these new Mercedes Volgren's to Blacktown but then entering service at Penrith???
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:15 pm

Not if it is in orange and white which is their country livery.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Daniel » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:40 am

As with most new Busways vehicles, the accredited depot put on the side in the factory is outdated by the time the final depot is decided.
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:48 am

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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Stonesourscotty » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:29 pm

These new busways vehicles are in the tfnsw livery.

Note if anyone wants to see the optare tempo sr it regularly is in St Mary's at 4:50
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby gilberations » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:58 am

Has anyone heard anything in the CDC company rebranding? Is it still happening?
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby Stonesourscotty » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:06 pm

1287 has entered service with busways it's on the 774 just gone past nepean hospital penrith bound. Very quiet bus has Blacktown legal details on it though??
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Re: Private Observations 2019

Postby crazyturbo76 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:44 pm

Stonesourscotty wrote:1287 has entered service with busways it's on the 774 just gone past nepean hospital penrith bound. Very quiet bus has Blacktown legal details on it though??

As Daniel mentioned above it probably hasn't had its' accreditation changed by the depot yet. 1285 has the same issue.
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