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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Fleet Lists » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:16 pm

I have the same ideology but I suspect we have different boundaries.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Swift » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:19 pm

It took me a while, but I know what you're getting at. :!:
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Qantas94Heavy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Swift wrote:^ which means most are, but all should be doing it by now.
There is an end to this mediocre service in sight at least.


Most appear to be doing so fine now, even the CDC drivers. Ironically I did see a marshal telling people not to get out at the back at Macquarie Uni because "there's a pole in front of here". It was a good 1.5 metres away from the door! :roll:
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Swift » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:00 pm

I've yet to ride the service. I better get in quick lest I miss all this excitement. :roll:
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby iamthouth » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:05 pm

The recommencement of SL7 has been brought forward a week, to the 18th Feb.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Frosty » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:23 am

^Cater for Macquarie Uni O-Week which starts from 18th of Feb.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby idontknow556 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:03 pm

Will there be a mass retirement of Hillsbus and Transdev buses the day after the metro opens?
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby burrumbus » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:35 pm

Probably not on that exact day ,but most likely within a few weeks
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:05 pm

From what I understood, the Stationlink buses from Hillsbus (the Volgren Optimus) will all go to the Hunter Valley instead. So Hillsbus’ old troops probably still have yet a way to go, but I don’t mind, I find them unique and more character. The one I was on not too long ago even had pull the rope as a stop button, how cute.

It’s the Transdev Station Link Bustechs I think that will stay in Sydney and as such most likely displace some ageing vehicles
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby swtt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:25 pm

Jurassic_Joke wrote:From what I understood, the Stationlink buses from Hillsbus (the Volgren Optimus) will all go to the Hunter Valley instead. So Hillsbus’ old troops probably still have yet a way to go, but I don’t mind, I find them unique and more character. The one I was on not too long ago even had pull the rope as a stop button, how cute.

It’s the Transdev Station Link Bustechs I think that will stay in Sydney and as such most likely displace some ageing vehicles


What about the impending Carlingford Line shutdown when the Parramatta Light Rail commences construction? :shock: :lol:
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby GazzaOak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:09 pm

swtt wrote:
Jurassic_Joke wrote:From what I understood, the Stationlink buses from Hillsbus (the Volgren Optimus) will all go to the Hunter Valley instead. So Hillsbus’ old troops probably still have yet a way to go, but I don’t mind, I find them unique and more character. The one I was on not too long ago even had pull the rope as a stop button, how cute.

It’s the Transdev Station Link Bustechs I think that will stay in Sydney and as such most likely displace some ageing vehicles


What about the impending Carlingford Line shutdown when the Parramatta Light Rail commences construction? :shock: :lol:


I think they will require only a less than a quarter of the station link buses.

I spoke to a station link driver who would use artarmon as a rest bay, he said that most of the station link drivers will be moved to bankstown for the bankstown replacement buses while they do works to the bankstown line for the metro. I wonder how will that work differently since Bankstown line will be a bigger job than ECRL.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby swtt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:26 pm

GazzaOak wrote:
I spoke to a station link driver who would use artarmon as a rest bay, he said that most of the station link drivers will be moved to bankstown for the bankstown replacement buses while they do works to the bankstown line for the metro. I wonder how will that work differently since Bankstown line will be a bigger job than ECRL.



The other thing with Bankstown is that where will the drivers go in the interim? Wrapping up StationLink in early May this year, but Bankstown shutdown probably won't happen until later next year or even 2021/2022? It's meant to be a one-year shutdown, so if SMC&SW is opening in 2024, it could be as late as 2023 before those drivers are "needed" again! :P
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby GazzaOak » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:38 pm

swtt wrote:
GazzaOak wrote:
I spoke to a station link driver who would use artarmon as a rest bay, he said that most of the station link drivers will be moved to bankstown for the bankstown replacement buses while they do works to the bankstown line for the metro. I wonder how will that work differently since Bankstown line will be a bigger job than ECRL.



The other thing with Bankstown is that where will the drivers go in the interim? Wrapping up StationLink in early May this year, but Bankstown shutdown probably won't happen until later next year or even 2021/2022? It's meant to be a one-year shutdown, so if SMC&SW is opening in 2024, it could be as late as 2023 before those drivers are "needed" again! :P


I feel they will be offered job all around the network. I highly doubt the government will leave them in the lurch.

He said he personally will be moved to a depot in Bankstown, and then when 2023 comes along, the comapines or government may offer those same station link guys another job doing bankstown replacements.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby boronia » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:52 pm

It is not uncommon for work contracts to be offered for a limited period, with no guarantee of extension or alternative work.

If this driver is moved to "a depot in Bankstown", what sort of position would he have that allows switching to that SL line when the time comes, without needing a replacement?
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby burrumbus » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:40 am

I think the work on each line for the bus replacements will most likely be recontracted.
The Station link services was a joint venture contract between Hillsbus and Transdev for the course of the replacement on Epping-Chatswood with the arrangements being that the buses bought new are retained by each operator and then used for replacement of older buses within each companies operations.
Any operator(s)could get the contract for subsequent rail replacement jobs.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:46 am

burrumbus wrote:Any operator(s)could get the contract for subsequent rail replacement jobs
and not necessarily Hillsbus and/or Transdev.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Swift » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:52 pm

This was a rather rare instance of two private operators, with likely differing concepts of how to run a bus operation, cooperating on this. Quite historic. I'm surprised how few pictures have surfaced here. Riff-raff book probably have tonnes.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby neilrex » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:42 pm

it seems to me, they can get 80% of the work at Parramatta done , before they need to shut down Carlingford.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:54 pm

That will only be a minor job compared with the current StationLink.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby gilberations » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:55 am

Stationlink buses have been seen doing Springwood - Penrith replacements.

Perhaps the fleet could be redeployed to be regular trackwork / emergency trackwork buses after the metro opens
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Fleet Lists » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:03 am

Why? There are already plenty of other buses available to do that. It is much more useful to keep them in regular work, replacing older buses as is intended.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby CityRail » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:45 pm

I wonder whether all StationLink buses will be discontinued once or sometime when Metro is commenced operations.

I do think some StationLink routes have its value and perhaps they should be kept. For example:

SL3 Beecroft - St Leonards via Macquarie Park & Macquarie University: This could convert to a new bus route from North Sydney - West Pennant Hills via St Leonards and Macquarie University, which will ease congestion on the Northern and Metro.
SL4 Macquarie University to St Leonards should be extended to City (Wynyard), as going on M2 from Wynyard to Macquarie on a bus will only take 20 minutes, as opposed to 40 minutes on rail.
SL5 Eastwood - Should be retained and perhaps can cut back 544 and 545 to Eastwood only.
SL7 Epping to Macquarie University campus - Should retain as a limited time service and enable some bus routes like 288, 291 to cut beyond Macquarie and improve run times.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby boronia » Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:31 pm

gilberations wrote:Stationlink buses have been seen doing Springwood - Penrith replacements.

Perhaps the fleet could be redeployed to be regular trackwork / emergency trackwork buses after the metro opens

They could redeploy the fleet, but where will they get enough drivers on short notice.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Transtopic » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:09 pm

CityRail wrote:I wonder whether all StationLink buses will be discontinued once or sometime when Metro is commenced operations.

I do think some StationLink routes have its value and perhaps they should be kept. For example:

SL3 Beecroft - St Leonards via Macquarie Park & Macquarie University: This could convert to a new bus route from North Sydney - West Pennant Hills via St Leonards and Macquarie University, which will ease congestion on the Northern and Metro.
SL4 Macquarie University to St Leonards should be extended to City (Wynyard), as going on M2 from Wynyard to Macquarie on a bus will only take 20 minutes, as opposed to 40 minutes on rail.
SL5 Eastwood - Should be retained and perhaps can cut back 544 and 545 to Eastwood only.
SL7 Epping to Macquarie University campus - Should retain as a limited time service and enable some bus routes like 288, 291 to cut beyond Macquarie and improve run times.

Just my tuppence worth-

SL3 - Would be worth continuing as an interim measure until the metro is extended to the CBD, taking some pressure off interchange congestion at Epping and Chatswood, but beyond that I have my doubts whether it would be warranted.
SL4 - Agree, but only in the contra-peak direction until the metro begins operation direct from the CBD.
SL5 - I assume you mean cutting back 544 and 545 at Eastwood from Auburn and Parramatta, requiring a change to reach Macquarie Park. I don't see that as an improvement. 544 services a different route between Eastwood and Macquarie Park to 545 which virtually mirrors the SL5 service, so I don't see a need for SL5 to be continued.
SL7 - Why would you bother when the metro (or even the previous Sydney Trains' service for that matter) is operating? It was 4 minutes from Epping to Macquarie University by train and the metro is likely to be about the same because of the speed limiting curves. It would be a stretch for the bus to beat that timing, so what's the point of it? Just let 288 and 291 continue their respective roles as intended, which includes servicing Macquarie Centre.
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Re: Station Link Observations

Postby Daniel » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:11 am

I have been made aware that the Stationlink fleet and drivers will initially remain with some overlaps, then more as a standby in case something goes wrong. Progressive reductions will occur over the coming weeks/months after the opening of the Metro. Stationlink is also required for some planned Metro nighttime closedowns for maintenance/testing/checks. All still subject to refinements and finalisation.
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