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NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:56 pm

Major delays down south tonight, reports of some trains delayed by more than 2 hours and buses now replacing trains south of Waterfall.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby lunchbox » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:00 pm

I've just noticed the rectangular-section, orange/brown sleepers installed on the fly-overs at Central. What are they made of?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby YoYo » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:37 pm

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/could-24-hour-public-transport-revive-sydney-s-nightlife-20180703-p4zp9w.html

City of Sydney looking to advocate for 24 hour public transport. I mean, if on Fridays and Saturdays there was at least one train an hour I think that would be a huge plus.

However, from memory I believe train maintenance and cost was is a reason why it's unlikely to be implemented.

I, personally, wouldn't bother with the night rider buses and haven't in years. I either catch the last train home or don't go.

I don't need the stress of a bus potentially filling up and having to wait an hour for the next one then having to get off at stop before mine and having to walk all the way up to my station.

Back in the day they were somewhat unreliable and I personally find them unpleasant to sit on for an hour compared to a train trip home.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:58 pm

T5 was between penrith and st Mary's again this week but with no millenniums stabled at penrith this time
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby tonyp » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:16 am

YoYo wrote:
I don't need the stress of a bus potentially filling up and having to wait an hour for the next one

Particularly when drivers regard the definition of "full" in NSW as somewhat less than the true capacity of the bus.

There are few worse transport experiences I remember in NSW over the years than seeing a bus skip the stop because it's "full" when it conspicuously isn't.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:45 pm

is it true A42 is being scrapped? and will become a spares donor for the A class?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby 3805 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:06 pm

I believe that A42 has been written off and is being broken up for spares.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:10 pm

Stonesourscotty wrote:is it true A42 is being scrapped? and will become a spares donor for the A class?
If they could salvage and repair a flooded out A29 then they can repair A42
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:16 pm

Will an extra B set be added to the order whilst the production run is still ongoing?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 pm

Timetable alterations for T5 trains this week from 18:50 each night. transportnsw.info just says "Weeknight service changes. Some trains run to a changed timetable." This appears to be government spin for "Weeknight services cancelled. No trains run."


Major CBD trackwork coming up at the end of July with the entire City Underground closed (T4 Eastern Suburbs remains open). T1 & T2 trains from the west terminate at Strathfield/Ashfield, T1 North Shore to city terminates at Wynyard, T3 & T8 terminate at Sydenham. https://transportnsw.info/document/1216 ... ckwork.pdf
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:39 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:Timetable alterations for T5 trains this week from 18:50 each night. transportnsw.info just says "Weeknight service changes. Some trains run to a changed timetable." This appears to be government spin for "Weeknight services cancelled. No trains run."


You seemed to intimate this was a permanent change but https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/6021914 reads as though it is for one week only.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby 3805 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:47 pm

Campbelltown busboy wrote: If they could salvage and repair a flooded out A29 then they can repair A42


The difference between the two is structural. A29 did not suffer from structural damage where as A42 did. It is amazing just how much compression damage was done which compromises the overall structural integrity of the train.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:56 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:
andy_centralcoast wrote:Timetable alterations for T5 trains this week from 18:50 each night. transportnsw.info just says "Weeknight service changes. Some trains run to a changed timetable." This appears to be government spin for "Weeknight services cancelled. No trains run."


You seemed to intimate this was a permanent change but https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/6021914 reads as though it is for one week only.


I don't think it's permanent, but I'm not sure, there is very little detail and the same vague "Trains run to a changed timetable" message comes up next week as well - 7pm until 2am. https://transportnsw.info/alerts/details#/6022213
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Fleet Lists » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:29 am

It is in the weekly trackwork schedule as
T5 Cumberland Line
Monday 9 to Friday 13 July
• Nightly from 6.50pm until 1.30am, some trains run to a changed timetable. More>>

The More takes you to the information previously pointed to.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:54 am

Stuck on a train near Hornsby. No guard announcement but the automated voice has been saying "- delays - urgent signal equipment repairs - Warrawee"

I've not heard that used before, is it a new software update?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Aurora » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:37 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:Stuck on a train near Hornsby. No guard announcement but the automated voice has been saying "- delays - urgent signal equipment repairs - Warrawee"

I've not heard that used before, is it a new software update?

The Waratahs have always had the remote messaging capability. But it hasn't been used much until recently.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby mandonov » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:03 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:Major CBD trackwork coming up at the end of July with the entire City Underground closed (T4 Eastern Suburbs remains open). T1 & T2 trains from the west terminate at Strathfield/Ashfield, T1 North Shore to city terminates at Wynyard, T3 & T8 terminate at Sydenham. https://transportnsw.info/document/1216 ... ckwork.pdf

The major track work is likely due to this: https://www.sydneymetro.info/sites/defa ... r_2018.pdf

Major construction to start at Central in August
Upcoming changes at Central

JULY TO DECEMBER 2018
Hoarding on Platforms 20/21 and 22/23
Construction of new stairs from platforms to pedestrian tunnel
Customer access maintained

FROM AUGUST 2018
Platforms 13, 14 and 15 closed
Platform 12 remains operational
Hoarding along Platform 12
Southern stairs closed
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:29 pm

Kiama trains stopping at Campbelltown bound platform at Sydenham p4 this evening all other trains using p6 heading towards the shire.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Aurora » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:16 pm

Stonesourscotty wrote:Kiama trains stopping at Campbelltown bound platform at Sydenham p4 this evening all other trains using p6 heading towards the shire.

Yes, due to maintenance between Redfern and Strathfield.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:38 pm

No due to maintenance at Wolli Creek meaning the Kiama trains avaided Wolli and stop at Sydenham and Arncliffe
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Aurora » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:28 am

Stonesourscotty wrote:No due to maintenance at Wolli Creek meaning the Kiama trains avaided Wolli and stop at Sydenham and Arncliffe

There you go. Why not add that in your original post rather than making people guess. A lot of posts you make tell only half the story.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:02 pm

Tonight's 12:18am Central to Lithgow service is running as a Waratah A set from Sydney Terminal to Penrith where it will terminate. The V set will be waiting at Penrith and depart 10 minutes later to continue the trip.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:48 am

Alot of people are intelligent enough to know that trains to kiama aren't affected by strathfield to redfern I didn't know the reason in my initial post as I was traveling from sydenham city bound so wouldn't have got any information about wolli being shut would I...
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Aurora » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:01 am

Stonesourscotty wrote:Alot of people are intelligent enough to know that trains to kiama aren't affected by strathfield to redfern I didn't know the reason in my initial post as I was traveling from sydenham city bound so wouldn't have got any information about wolli being shut would I...

You're wrong that Strathfield to Redfern can't affect Kiama services if Redfern platforms 1 and 2 are shut.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:00 am

Kiama services can be diverted to T4, and don't need to go through Redfern 1 and 2. This already happens a lot.
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