aussieboy wrote:tonyp wrote:I'm wondering if they should now be reviewing the case for rail to Bondi Beach.
Absolutely. The new council has come out against light rail, with no consultation of residents. The previous Liberal council was in favour and did a lot of work on feasibility etc.
IMO the best place to put it would be down the laneways that run parallel to Bondi Rd (Waverley St - Dalley St - Ocean Lane - Avoca St
tonyp wrote:
The only other issue there is that the cost-benefit case for the city-BJ section may not stack up well, which leaves the options of connecting to the city anyway or just having it as an isolated line from Waverley depot. Either way, this could replace a huge amount of buses.
Tonymercury wrote:
Convert the 400 as far as Rockdale Station, making sure that standards match for High Street and Anzac Parade.
Frosty wrote:Light Rail to Bondi Beach to Bondi Jn would be better than current situation of where at most you can get 70 people on 12.5m bus. But light rail surely wouldn’t be able to the City via Oxford St. After Moore Park Rd Oxford St isn’t wide enough. The six lanes are very narrow there wouldn’t be any room for platform stops.
There should be a bus out there suitable for RHD market that is able to fit 90-100 people in a 12.5m bus & trialed it would work well for Bondi Beach Run & Inner West routes. I think in Australia it cultural thing 4 people per square metre standing is seen as unacceptable when we’re use to our personal space.
mandonov wrote: That service was on time in Dover Heights, 2 minutes late at Bondi Beach, 8 Minutes late at BJI, and by the time it got to the city it was 11 minutes behind schedule.
Swift wrote:The 333 took an age to soak a throng of punters through the front door only. It must have been horrendous in the days of cash payments.
burrumbus wrote:I journeyed up to Sydney and had two goes at Bondi Beach to observe goings on.I observed at the Campbell Parade /Hall Street stop.Friday and Saturday evenings.
There,are in my opinion a number of issues.....
Swift wrote:I hope the actors, artists and various snobs that thought a train service was a terrible idea can see the workable alternative we have now.
burrumbus wrote:Tony,I suspect the reason the lady driver didn't load the bus to capacity at Hall Avenue was to have some capacity for the last Campbell Parade stop,then Bondi Road.There is turnover from Bondi Beach down Bondi Beach.From the evidence my estimate of 3 out of 10 pax is pretty close to the mark.
The service there simply fails badly,But I saw several examples throughout the STA area.Coogee and Randwick having the same issues.
As In transit said the problems can be sorted out relatively easily.But,like you STA ,hamstrung by old operating practices and the union are simply incapable of making those changes.As I've said before the lack of capacity and productivity of bus and drivers is one of the biggest reasons(although not stated publicly)why STA will lose region 6.
Sydney desparately needs something better from the bus industry.
By the way most region 6 buses noted were very simply filthy outside.Seems they have given up trying to present the buses at least a bit.
tonyp wrote:Swift wrote:I hope the actors, artists and various snobs that thought a train service was a terrible idea can see the workable alternative we have now.
They don't care, they drive.
Frosty wrote:I have feeling W prefers VSTM probably more reliable, better fuel consumption & drivers prefer it.
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