Since the Watt & Scott Sts "works" are finished, why are the buses only going to & from Newcastle Station/Customs House, instead of Queens Wharf?

Perhaps awaiting the July timetable changes??

According to https://transportnsw.info/news/2018/new ... us-changes things should return to normal next Monday 18th.

I know that, but the Watt & Scott Sts intersection has been re-opened & other buses including Keolis Downer buses are using the Wharf Rd & Watt St Roundabout & via Whard Rd where Queens Wharf is, so I'm still wondering why the 11, 13 & 14 buses need to start/terminate at Newcastle Station/Customs House.

Would anyone know why the yellow lines have been painted on the kerbs in front of some bus stops?

EG: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nbmwvb874Z8MAqsq9

Newcastle Flyer wrote:Would anyone know why the yellow lines have been painted on the kerbs in front of some bus stops?

EG: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nbmwvb874Z8MAqsq9

Likely the location for a hop signage installation/replacement.

Some councils put these markings down so contractors know where to erect the signs.

NO QUOTING WHOLE POST PLEASE - especailly when it's the previous post.

Re not going to/from Queens Wharf in my posts above: I'm wondering if their has a been a complaint about buses going around Centenary St/Av to return & are now prevented going to/from Queens Wharf, as the Watt & Scott Sts "works" intersection has finished. We'll see on Monday.
Simlar to why only two bus routes only ended up on the previous network going to Newcastle East.

Civic stop looking good
https://twitter.com/carolduncan/status/ ... 22081?s=19

I Think from what I could see NT buses were still terminating at old Newcastle Station bus parking lot today. I didn't spend a lot of time around here due to wet weather so couldn't really observe too much but I got off a route 13 bus and instead of heading off towards Wharf Road, it parked / terminated at Newcastle station.

And apparently the BCI Citirider 12's without a rear door are fitted with seatbealts I was on m/o 5490 and it has seatbealts but the ones with the rear doors aren't, at least when I last went on them which was the time I filmed a video of riding it.

are passengers wearing the seat belts?

^^ ScaniaGrenda, I have a feeling that NT buses (& any other company's buses) that are meant to start/terminate) have been prevented from doing so, due to a possible complaint. But that Queens Wharf stop helps with access to parts of areas where the bus stops maybe too far away.

Customs House/Newcastle Station as a terminus was meant to end yesterday. I'd doubt I'd get an answer form the transport hub.

1whoknows wrote:Perhaps awaiting the July timetable changes??

The original article has been amended - says new timetables start July 29

LB608 wrote:are passengers wearing the seat belts?

I would be amazed if they were !!!

Queens Wharf: While the PDF has routes 11, 13 & 14 stil has Queens Wharf as a stop, the Transport Planner still show these routes starting/terminating at Customs House/Newcastle Station.

Seems a lot of people (including here) are quiet about it.

Hopefully the 29 July are improvements on the existing network.

Okay so the reason IS due to complaints in Centenary Rd. Queens Wharf bus stops will now longer be used, except for the 110.
Was that so hard to mention, unless . . .?

What was the basis of the complaints?
The 11, 13 and 14 timetables still sow these routes as operating to and from Queens Wharf but the dynamic maps such as at https://transportnsw.info/routes/detail ... k/14/73014 for route 14 show them as operating to/from Customs House (not in heading).

Looking back at the article which advised of the changes in June to routes 11, 13 and 14 https://transportnsw.info/news/2018/new ... us-changes and map http://newcastletransport.info/uploads/ ... EGULAR.PDF there is no mention that these routes would no longer go via Queens Wharf at any time so this is a separate change from the one advised and appears to have been snuck in without any advice.

Fleet Lists wrote:What was the basis of the complaints?

Something about because Centenary Rd is one way & the buses are making it hard as they turn(ed) around there: But here is Centenary Rd. As you can see, it's two way.

Yes the Transport Planner & most similar whatever you call them, show only to/from Customs House.
You can see on the NT webpage that they were meant to return to/from Queens Wharf last Monday.

Only SOME 11, 13 & 14's are showing CUSTOMS HOUSE, but if a bus shows the destination of QUEENS WHARF (or any XYZ destination for that matter), & you're going to Queens Wharf (or XYZ destination), then I believe the driver can't order you off, the driver has to take you to the destination shown, if that's where you going. Is that correct?

I'm by no means a resident of Newcastle & not down there every day of the week (despite my Youtube name and freuqentings of the Newcastle area) so I only observe what I see and definitely know about (if I don't then that's why I ask) so that's one of the reasons why I'm silent on the buses not going to QW matter or whatever is going on.

There's probably a lot of other things happening Transport wise in Newie that I'm either aware of or not aware of and don't have much to say on it, party due to it not affecting me or having much to say on it

Anyway m/o 1606 running with a broken opal reader at the front of the bus, a majority of the PAX didn't even bother to tap on using the middle reader that was working and treated it like it was a free bus.

Hopped on a 110 only to hear from the Drivers 2 way radio that the Hamilton depot was in Lockdown and that Drivers were NOT TO RETURN TO THE DEPOT even if they finished their shift until further notice (You could hear the fire alarm bells in the background of the 2-way). Another report came through the 2 way 2 minuets up the road again saying not to return to the Depot but a Fire sprinkler had been activated (never heard where about in the Depot on the 2 way) I went to check on Hamilton 10 minuets after the report was made and by the time I got there everything was All clear and buses were entering and leaving the Depot again. The Fire department hadn't arrived when I got there.

Sounds either like a false alarm or something tripped the sprinklers. Hope no Buses or Employees were harmed

https://www.nbnnews.com.au/2018/07/03/t ... m-july-29/

Two snapshots of the proposed new network show some of the proposed changes with more routes servicing Charlestown, less focus on terminating buses at Belmont and removal of buses to Queens Wharf.

edit:

July Timetables & maps now up on Newcastle Transport websites.

Edit: 29 July 2018 timetables & maps here: https://www.newcastletransport.info/the-new-way

What they didn’t mention is that 29 now goes to Swansea North, replacing 45, which has been discontinued.
45 becomes the first casualty
11/13/14 officially terminate at former interchange

What is the "former" interchange?