if the 352 one meant adding weekend services and later evening services, then that one has been done
extra 914 services were added a while ago
the 859 one sounds like route 850 of the present day
Xplorer wrote:if the 352 one meant adding weekend services and later evening services, then that one has been done
extra 914 services were added a while ago
the 859 one sounds like route 850 of the present day
swtt wrote:Xplorer wrote:if the 352 one meant adding weekend services and later evening services, then that one has been done
extra 914 services were added a while ago
the 859 one sounds like route 850 of the present day
Updated again: http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p1020265
I wonder what the 461 and M52 change are though.
461 to have frequencies that align with the original metrobus frequencies? It is a designated Rapid route! (The AM peak currently 10 min from Burwood, 30 min off peak, which is pretty atrocious)
M52 to take over all route 500 services ex Top Ryde and operate as short runners? Or all 500 converted to M52 and extended into Parramatta?
simonl wrote:Why wouldn't they fulfill some of their overdue promises from Sydney's bus future? That was 10 minute peak and interpeak, 15 minute weekend frequencies IIRC for both the M52 and 461. Not sure about evenings. M52 was also to become limited stops all the way to Parramatta and 461 was to become limited stops. Wouldn't be holding my breath for those upgrades though.
EDIT: Looks like the 461 is to go to 20 minutes weekdays interpeak, no other upgrades are obvious to the 461 or M52 outside peak.
mandonov wrote:M52 will most likely be the next candidate for B-Line.
simonl wrote:Why wouldn't they fulfill some of their overdue promises from Sydney's bus future? That was 10 minute peak and interpeak, 15 minute weekend frequencies IIRC for both the M52 and 461. Not sure about evenings. M52 was also to become limited stops all the way to Parramatta and 461 was to become limited stops. Wouldn't be holding my breath for those upgrades though.
EDIT: Looks like the 461 is to go to 20 minutes weekdays interpeak, no other upgrades are obvious to the 461 or M52 outside peak.
The theorist in me says that this, coupled with the sighting of a B-Line double deck bus at Northmead (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81679&start=825#p1020691), means that if the M52 were indeed converted to B-Line, they'd have to revert to the old L20 stopping pattern to make it work - ie. limited stops all the way to Parramatta, at which point you'd need a similar all stops bus a-la 199 running parallel for part of the route (oh, say, Top Ryde to Parramatta, being the current all-stops section).swtt wrote:The conspiracy theorist in me says if that's the case, its full implementation will be by December 2018 - just in time for the March 2019 state election!mandonov wrote:M52 will most likely be the next candidate for B-Line.
swtt wrote:I would like them to fulfill Sydney's Bus Future plans ASAP myself - but almost every time there have been major changes to each region they have seemingly just been tweaks here and there without major increases in frequencies. Hillsbus excepted - 610X/M61/607X have seen huge increases over the past years.
Fleet Lists wrote:I agree but that plan is starting to get out of date and I have a horrible feeling that most of what was planned there will never see the light of day. Budget constraints would be given as the reason for that.
Fleet Lists wrote:I agree but that plan is starting to get out of date and I have a horrible feeling that most of what was planned there will never see the light of day.
Actually, the appendices to the M61 and M41 bus stop rationalisation submission reports still refer to them as Rapid Route 10 and Rapid Route 6!Fleet Lists wrote:swtt wrote:I would like them to fulfill Sydney's Bus Future plans ASAP myself - but almost every time there have been major changes to each region they have seemingly just been tweaks here and there without major increases in frequencies. Hillsbus excepted - 610X/M61/607X have seen huge increases over the past years.
I agree but that plan is starting to get out of date and I have a horrible feeling that most of what was planned there will never see the light of day. Budget constraints would be given as the reason for that.
mandonov wrote:I made the list of changes easier to read:Sydney Metropolitan
More than 1,600 additional services on the following routes:
Route 461 Burwood to City via Parramatta Road;
New, extended or enhanced all-night services on the following routes:
Route 400 Burwood to Bondi Junction via Sydney Airport;
Route 423 Kingsgrove to City via Earlwood and Newtown;
swtt wrote:
Hey, before this 2018 budget swings around, these haven't been done yet!!!!
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