$1.7 billion order for new Waratah trains signed

[boxythingy]

Provisional space for electronic advertisement:

I wonder if they solved the screen timeout glitch after an announcement has been made.

[Jurassic_Joke]

That was solved a long time ago - simply reverts back to the list of next stops / current station

[MLVD]

There is a new thing where it will say (with a DVA) "This train will depart in 2 minutes" but the problem is that it doesn't update until after the train departs so it still says "This train will depart in 2 minutes" as the train is leaving the station.

[boxythingy]

It's unbelievable that between 2002 and 2018, 16 whole years, there's been no innovation of presenting stop information other than on two lines of text. Look at how simple, yet dynamic this Hong Kong MTR example (2016-) is:


Even North Korea does it better than Australia...

[GazzaOak]

Admin: Unnecessary quote of previous post deleted.
I think its due to the fact that those trains only on one line, while our trains operate on another line and this stuff require programing...

[quaidy]

Indeed, it’s not straightforward comparing metro lines to a commuter railway. Having said that the displays could be sexier.

[Swift]

Even North Korea does it better than Australia...

Communist countries often have fantastic public transport, but nearly everyone does it better than backwater country.
Our apathetic culture that so readily accepts and even embraces mediocrity like a religion fosters second best practice. Our phobia of 'rocking the boat' doesn't help either. Mediocrity is worse than being bad, because being bad is usually dealt with quicker.

[idontknow556]

Are B sets operating today?

[andy_centralcoast]

Are B sets operating today?

Yes - runs 864 and 865 - but not as passenger services.

[Fleet Lists]

What are those runs?

[andy_centralcoast]

I'm guessing more testing.
864 starts at Granville, heads to Campbelltown, then Sydenham, down to Macarthur, over to Turella, back to Leppington, then to Auburn via Regent's Park.
865 starts at Granville, heads to Blacktown, then Leppington via Regent's Park, Revesby and back to Leppington, Turella, Campbelltown, Sydenham, Campbelltown, then back to Auburn via Regents Park.

[idontknow556]

When I went past AMF this morning I noticed that one of the B sets has an advert on it. The advert reads the Waratah series 2 trains have arrived. This is 1 out of 24 new Waratahs. Apologies I can't remeber the set number

[boronia]

I saw two sets with this promo decoration, B1 and B2.

Very "hippy" with flower motifs on the D cars.

[Swift]

^ Just another gimmicky wank masquerading as a revolution in transport, NSW is so well practised at.
We are run by loonies.

[Stonesourscotty]

Sad to know A/B sets are still banned on the Bondi line.

[Fleet Lists]

I dont think Banned is the right word.

[Stonesourscotty]

They are actually banned between Erskineville and Bondi Junction

@ Due to electrical and signalling restrictions, Waratah (A sets) and SGT (B sets) are not
permitted on the Eastern Suburbs Rail Line between Erskineville Junction and Bondi
Junction.

[MotorOmnibus8562]

Why are there signalling restrictions between Erskineville and Bondi that only allows the T's

[mandonov]

They are actually banned between Erskineville and Bondi Junction

@ Due to electrical and signalling restrictions, Waratah (A sets) and SGT (B sets) are not
permitted on the Eastern Suburbs Rail Line between Erskineville Junction and Bondi
Junction.

For those wondering, this line is from the end of this document:

B2 and B3 have been approved for revenue service:
https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/indust ... ains-sgt-b

[Fleet Lists]

Why are there signalling restrictions between Erskineville and Bondi that only allows the T's

It is not restricted to T sets - only A & B sets can not operate there because of different power requirements which is still being worked on to resolve that.

[Fleet Lists]

And similar restrictions apply on the Carlingford line.

[Swift]

Why are there signalling restrictions between Erskineville and Bondi that only allows the T's

It is not restricted to T sets - only A & B sets can not operate there because of different power requirements which is still being worked on to resolve that.

You mean they are power guzzlers in this age of aspiring to be more efficient on energy.
They have had nearly a decade to have it ready to accept such a class of train.

[moa999]

Had to add substations on the North Shore line for the Waratahs.

Nothing wrong with dedicated fleet per line.
Gets you to common door position which starts to allow PSDs in the city circle.

[Swift]

Nothing wrong with dedicated fleet per line.
Gets you to common door position which starts to allow PSDs in the city circle.

There is when the train is 20 years older and other lines get the benefits of a much newer train.
Nothing wrong with consistent car lengths and a fair go for all to use a taxpayer funded newer train model with added features and amenity.

[mandonov]

There is when the train is 20 years older and other lines get the benefits of a much newer train.
Nothing wrong with consistent car lengths and a fair go for all to use a taxpayer funded newer train model with added features and amenity.

Hence the Tangara Technology Upgrade which is meant to add these modern passenger communication features.... if it ever gets passed the point of the design stage that is.