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ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby captainch » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:54 pm

WOULD anybody know if mo 1 ALNOR BODYED BUS is still around please WAS TALKING TO one of its former owners PETER BREWER of A.B.C bus lines which was after LOWES bus servive ALEXANDRIA. he would like to know what happened to it after it went to sugar valley bus lines then morroset bus company! thanks! :roll: :shock:
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:53 pm

Last known as having been withdrawn from Sugar Valley 1/03 - no record of it having gone to Morisset according to the fleet lists.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Centralian » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:37 pm

Were there any other full bodies built by Alnor or just this one ? I know they did some modifications of ex UTA Leopards for Leslies and perhaps others, but this is the only full Alnor body I've ever seen images of.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby boronia » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:59 pm

There are several previous posts about Alnor, which will come up in search
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby stajourneyman » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:04 pm

It apparently got sold for a mobile home to a bloke on Elizabeth Drive Kemps Creek many years ago.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:37 am

Here Captain three pictures of the Alnor bodied Leyland Worldmaster.One picture from the Pete Kane collection and two pictures from Norman Chambers Facebook
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Denv12 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:46 am

Its a decent looking bus.Its a shame there werent more built.Did the bus builder build any coaches as well?
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:47 pm

I'm having trouble reading what the make of the chassis is.
It looks vaguely like L E Y L A N D to me.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby stajourneyman » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:18 pm

.....as it happens, looking at the last photo, the overly prominent LEYLAND badging was replaced at some point by a more traditional 'cat' badge.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:06 am

The chassis under this bus came from MTT Adelaide jumbo Leyland Worldmaster 835 which became Hunter Hill m/o-4576 in 1973.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:40 am

Swift wrote:I'm having trouble reading what the make of the chassis is.
It looks vaguely like L E Y L A N D to me.

Another photo with the Leyland badge is http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-7628
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:50 am

Bedford-29 wrote:The chassis under this bus came from MTT Adelaide jumbo Leyland Worldmaster 835 which became Hunter Hill m/o-4576 in 1973.

The fleet lists do not conform this as this bus has a 1983 body while m/o 4576 is shown as having been reregd m/o 7856 with North & Western in 1987.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:06 am

Fleet Lists wrote:
Swift wrote:I'm having trouble reading what the make of the chassis is.
It looks vaguely like L E Y L A N D to me.

Another photo with the Leyland badge is http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-7628

That link you provided has a couple of nice CVI bodied buses with the winged badge and blue triangle that I can't quite read either. :wink:
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:17 pm

m/o 7656 Leyland Royal Tiger Worldmaster CRT2/1 571285 Freighter Lawton 6/12/57 B46D
ex m/o 4576 (plate swap with Leyland Tiger early-1987); ex Hunters Hill Bus Company, Gladesville m/o 4576 28/4/78; ex Metropolitan Transport Trust (MTT), Adelaide, SA (835) -/73.
Dereg by early 1992 & presumed scrapped.ABC Coach Lines - Alexandria
Registration m/o 001
Chassis Type Leyland Worldmaster CRT2/1
Chassis No 571285
Body Manufacturer Alnor
Body No 001
Body Date 9/83
Seating Codes B57F
Notes ex m/o 312; ex South Western Coach Lines, Alexandria m/o 312 2/86; ex m/o 7378 (Reg -/84 at Revesby depot after being stored u/r at Alexandria); Rebody ex STA, Adelaide, SA (7121).
Sold at auction 10/4/89 to G Kerr, Cessnock as MO 1045, then to Sugar Valley Coachlines Pty Ltd (Spencer Ross), Edgeworth as (10) m/o 628, then to Toronto Bus Service t/a Sugar Valley Coachlines, Edgeworth 17/3/98 - Renumbered m/o 7189 by 10/02 & withdrawn for sale 1/03.Now I used the chassis number to find out where the chassis came from as I have pdf fleet list of MTT & STA buses past & present 712 is a AEC Regal IV
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:19 pm

Bedford-29 wrote:m/o 7656 Leyland Royal Tiger Worldmaster CRT2/1 571285 Freighter Lawton 6/12/57 B46D
ex m/o 4576 (plate swap with Leyland Tiger early-1987); ex Hunters Hill Bus Company, Gladesville m/o 4576 28/4/78; ex Metropolitan Transport Trust (MTT), Adelaide, SA (835) -/73.
Dereg by early 1992 & presumed scrapped.

ABC Coach Lines - Alexandria
Registration m/o 001
Chassis Type Leyland Worldmaster CRT2/1
Chassis No 571285
Body Manufacturer Alnor
Body No 001
Body Date 9/83
Seating Codes B57F
Notes ex m/o 312; ex South Western Coach Lines, Alexandria m/o 312 2/86; ex m/o 7378 (Reg -/84 at Revesby depot after being stored u/r at Alexandria); Rebody ex STA, Adelaide, SA (7121).
Sold at auction 10/4/89 to G Kerr, Cessnock as MO 1045, then to Sugar Valley Coachlines Pty Ltd (Spencer Ross), Edgeworth as (10) m/o 628, then to Toronto Bus Service t/a Sugar Valley Coachlines, Edgeworth 17/3/98 - Renumbered m/o 7189 by 10/02 & withdrawn for sale 1/03.


Now I used the chassis number to find out where the chassis came from as I have pdf fleet list of MTT & STA buses past & present 712 is a AEC Regal IV

I have split the two quotes which both show the same chassis number but there is still a date discrepancy, m/o 4576 shown as reregd m/o 7656 early 1987 while the body date of the Alnor is earlier in 1983.

Possibly the date of the rereg is incorrect. The red 7121 in the fleet list is obviously incorrect.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:18 pm

Bedford-29 wrote:Here Captain three pictures of the Alnor bodied Leyland Worldmaster.One picture from the Pete Kane collection and two pictures from Norman Chambers Facebook

Quite ironic that the Panther chassis on the bus to it's left in Pete Kane's Sugar Valley pic is 10 years or so newer than the Alnor's .
This bus is very reminiscent of Oliveri's now retired fleet of Austral rebodies on ex Adelaide Leyland Worldmaster chassis.
Would love to see a dash shot of this Alnor bus.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:06 am

The fleet list for this bus needs to be redone its up in the air but thank Christ the chassis number was correct finding out it was ex MTT Adelaide 835 that went to Hunters Hill as m/o-4576 then rereg m/o-7656 plus too I had a quick look in my picture files and found a picture of the donor bus for the Alnor Worldmaster.Picture from Norman Chambers facebook
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:01 am

Looks like they painted up the wheels first in anticipation of this upcoming rebody.
There really wasn't anything wrong with the Lawton's body. Probably more rattle free than the one that replaced it. :!:
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Linto63 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:36 pm

When the MTT took over all the Adelaide privates in the mid 70s, each of the fleets viewtopic.php?f=6&t=72567 were given a separate 4-digit code. The Bowman’s fleet were all numbered in the 71xx range, so 7121 may have been an ex MTT vehicle that was sold to Bowman’s and then reacquired.

The rereg of 4576 to 7656 in 1987 seems about right, it was actually a plate swap with a 1986 Leyland Tiger. It was one of the last Worldmasters, being withdrawn in 1992 with the plates going onto a Hino RG197K. In the picture above, 7656 is displaying route 530, so must have been some time post 1990.

Have a vague recollection that Alnor completed one other body, possibly on a Bedford or Hino.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:50 pm

Thank You for that information.
That then again throws some doubt on the Alnor having that chassis as it was built in 1983 while the one at Hunters Hill and then North & Western was not withdrawn until 1992.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:39 pm

Bowman`s Bus Service 21 RPT-943 Leyland Worldmaster ex MTT Adelaide 834 ex STA 7121 sold to Bowman`s 1972 the chassis number for this bus 571283 by the look of it this bus stayed in Adelaide.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:49 pm

Ahhh so 7656 was the sole unit that got the North and Western livery and lost it's splitty rear window for a single pane job.
Explains the white wheels. Gosh they stand out (but look surprisingly good -and clean!) with the HHBC livery.
I saw three HHBC livered ones sitting together with their rears facing Victoria Rd from the Monash Rd depot in 1993 when we drove past at night time.
I only ever seemed to see that CVI Leyland you see behind, sitting at the Monash Rd depot. I can't ever recall seeing it on a route.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Bedford-29 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:18 pm

The factory that the Alnor built at is still standing at 16 Foundry Rd Seven Hills looking on Google Earth Melrose Crane & Rigging now occupies premises since 1998.
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby boronia » Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:58 pm

Swift wrote:Looks like they painted up the wheels first in anticipation of this upcoming rebody.
There really wasn't anything wrong with the Lawton's body. Probably more rattle free than the one that replaced it. :!:

They looked much better painted silver
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Re: ALNOR BODY MO 1

Postby Swift » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:22 pm

I go for the matching HHBC maroon red wheels with cream surround.
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