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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby Swift » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:27 pm

push button rather than a handle for the inter-car doors

I always liked that way of opening them. I think a button is not as ergonomic.
I noticed the other day how well the Tangas stack up against their later brethren. Thanks to the interior upgrades, I think the average commuter would barely notice the difference over an A set or an Oscar. The M sets might stand out due to their seating and vocal drives.
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:45 pm

PaulSEO wrote:
Tangaraupgrade.png


Here is an image of a Tangara Technology upgrade in progress.

Changes I note:

push button rather than a handle for the inter-car doors
change of the saloon seating to fold up for wheelchair access
addition of handrail and help points (incomplete) above the saloon seating, similar to a Waratah
move of help points to the saloon side of the vestibule rather than the upper / lower deck side
red upholstered seating on one side of saloon signifying for aged / disability customers

Here is a good pic of a recently refurbished car for comparison:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Tr ... tibule.jpg

The prototype of the TTU is due this month (October, 2017)


So they're gunna make the Saloon seats significantly less comfortable. Wow. Good one
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - December 2017

Postby Stonesourscotty » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:28 am

Has the refurbished tangara entered service yet?
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby boronia » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:57 pm

Here is a good pic of a recently refurbished car for comparison:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Tr ... tibule.jpg


That appears to be an unrefurbished vestibule, picture is dated 2008.

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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby PaulSEO » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm

No. That is a refurbished car with yellow poles and monkey bar style hand-holds in the ceiling. The date in the file history says: 09:15, 14 October 2011 so maybe whoever created it in 2008 replaced it later.

Other than this news article about the drivers' desk: http://www.manningrivertimes.com.au/sto ... omination/ there is no update. They have slipped several deadlines, and are now forecasting 2019 completion rather than the July 2018 that the state contracted UGL for. I wish I could miss my work deadlines by that much and still get such a big payday.

I've asked a state MP to follow it up, and they may do a GIPAA (fka FOI) request to see what is going on:

back in August 2015, the Government awarded a contract to UGL Unipart for $131M to upgrade over 400 Tangara train cars. The work was supposed to be completed by July 2018.

To date, they have completed zero, over 2 years later. As far as I know, they are about a year late on even delivering a prototype.

These upgrades included CCTV which is de rigueur in modern trains for passenger safety, as well more accommodations for people with a disability.

As you know, a large part of the rail network is served exclusively by these Tangara trains, i.e. the Illawarra / Eastern Suburbs line, so effectively, passengers using that line are being discriminated against by not having these upgrades completed in a timely manner.

Perhaps you could please ask Minister Constance, or his representative in the Legislative Council, why the delay?
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:06 pm

Taking into account they already made the doors (subjectively!) aesthetically uglier and really cheap-looking than what they replaced + sucked out a bit of the Tangara's original character by doing that, I'm not really too hopeful. The prototype picture I saw but is now gone was also ugly, they basically made the vestibule seats even smaller and more cramped + uncomfortable, if they've moved away from that, thats good.

I'm glad they appeared to have backed away from changing the door chimes to what I heard earlier this year (y)

But otherwise, not too pleased this is running substantially late. Tangara's are almost 30 years old as hard as it is to believe (I feel old now!)
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby PaulSEO » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:13 pm

Here is the picture again attached:
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby Swift » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:57 pm

The Tangarbages are very future proof trains with updated interiors. They require attention to notice you are in a train older then the M and A sets. Well done Goninan.
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Re: Tangara upgrade contract awarded to UGL

Postby boronia » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:34 pm

PaulSEO wrote:Here is the picture again attached:

This is a different picture to what I got in the link above.
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