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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby tonyp » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:07 am

NSW bus drivers are going to have to realise that, apart from people from overseas, with large numbers of people coming to Sydney from interstate jurisdictions that have or are adopting all-door loading they are going to have to stop losing their cool and courteously explain to people why they shouldn't be entering at the other doors in NSW. It's not because people are stupid but because many genuinely don't understand the rule or the logic. But by all means continue to hold out against it hey.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:11 pm

tonyp wrote:NSW bus drivers are going to have to realise that, apart from people from overseas, with large numbers of people coming to Sydney from interstate jurisdictions that have or are adopting all-door loading they are going to have to stop losing their cool and courteously explain to people why they shouldn't be entering at the other doors in NSW. It's not because people are stupid but because many genuinely don't understand the rule or the logic. But by all means continue to hold out against it hey.
The rules for buses are made by Transport For NSW that is most likely stacked with RTBU members and bureaucrats that don't have a clue about anything to do with public transport and we all know the RTBU's thoughts on the multi door loading issue
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby Swift » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:17 pm

It's heartening to see many drivers have contempt for their union and quite freely allow people to enter through the centre doors, well the intelligent ones who think for themselves anyway.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby tonyp » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:54 am

Campbelltown busboy wrote: The rules for buses are made by Transport For NSW that is most likely stacked with RTBU members and bureaucrats that don't have a clue about anything to do with public transport and we all know the RTBU's thoughts on the multi door loading issue

The vast majority of Australian city bus drivers are covered by the TWU which doesn't seem to have a problem with all-door loading. The RTBU bus strongholds are Sydney and Brisbane. In Brisbane, curiously, RTBU doesn't seem to have a problem with all-door loading on the Citygliders. I'm sure there's an explanation for the double standard.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby rogf24 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:29 pm

Meanwhile in NSW, I saw a kid a few days ago block the front door because he wanted to get on first (mother was still waiting in line) and the driver started shouting at the kid for blocking passengers from entering the bus and not boarding with his mum. Imagine if there was all-door boarding so the kid who blocked the door wouldn't be as disruptive. Oh well, still, that kid needed a lesson. He didn't even move until his mum got on (all the way at the end) while other passengers were just constantly bumping into him. All-door boarding would have still helped here.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby Swift » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:54 pm

Get the message Australia (it never will) your way isn't best practice.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby tonyp » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:46 pm

Swift wrote:Get the message Australia (it never will) your way isn't best practice.
https://youtu.be/mDhALjRZa8k

Most of the rest of Australia is progressively getting it. It's just NSW that's stuck in a rut.
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Re: Use of Back Door on Buses

Postby Bus Suggestions » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am

To some degree, using the back door for exit only is Australian psychology. I've been on buses where even though the front door is empty (i.e. at termini), everybody leaves through the back, slowing down the process of disembarking passengers and often making the next trip the bus does late. All-door boarding could somewhat help by letting people board through the back, slowing down passengers exiting and giving them the 'spark' to exit through the front.
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