Delivery of new trams for Inner West Light Rail Extension

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Tonymercury wrote:
Except for whatever bikes use the concrete path.
I don't know that it's safe for cyclists to use either tramways or busways in any case.
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there's going to be light rail testing between lilyfield and john street square stops on the 13th,14th,19th between 12am-5am
http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/sites/d ... 202013.pdf

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Is this for the new ones or the old ones ???

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The next tram delivery will happen on Wed 18/12/13 - Thur 19/12/13. The over size convoy is expected to arrive at 02:00.

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Is that a leased tram or a new one?

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new one all of the leased ones have been delivered

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For anyone around the south coast area, the oversize convoy departs Port Kembla at 21:30.

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I walked pass their depot this morning, is it hidden behind the back? Only saw the 4 leased ones.

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You are a week early.
The next tram delivery will happen on Wed 18/12/13 - Thur 19/12/13. The over size convoy is expected to arrive at 02:00.

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Oh sorry my bad, didn't read the date carefully. I saw Wed and Thu and just assumed it was last night.

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here is sydney's new light rail vehicles being tested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neOewiYRuUY

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Looks nice

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Looks like those longitudinal plastic seats are still firmly in place. They will be a surprise for some. The saving grace is that there are enough doors, unlike the new ones to come.
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The plastic seats won`t be the first mode of public transport to have them remember the Brisbane city council Leyland Panthers to name one.
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panthers didn't have plastic seats it was the leapords :roll:and AEC'S.

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Any updates on the new trams arrival ?? Is it still on for tonight / tomorrow 02.00 (19.12.2013.) or has there been a hiccup ??

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I haven't heard of any delays or changes to the original plan so I'm thinking that the delivery will still proceed as scheduled.

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It's on tonight, I walked past about 30 minutes ago. The tracks are blocked off, overhead is earthed, lots of people in hi-vis and even a couple of bystanders setting up tripods and the like.
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does anyone have any photos of the tram delivery?

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I was there with my phone. Others had tripods and more serious looking equipment. I'm sure there will be more available elsewhere on the web. It was quite a thing to watch. People stopped, took photos, had photos taken with the tram.

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Has there been anymore subsequent deliveries since 2112 about a month or so ago?

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Interesting that it was delivered as an entire set instead of module/two module joints like they do in Melbourne. They did that with the C2s that came from Mulhouse and then connected them at the depot. Delivering it as an entire set must've been a bit of a headache in terms of driving through the CBD and whatnot.

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The Gold Coast trams, and I think the Adelaide cars, were delivered intact.

The trailers they are carried on are very maneuverable.
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boronia wrote:The Gold Coast trams, and I think the Adelaide cars, were delivered intact.

The trailers they are carried on are very manoeuvrable.
You still need intersections wide enough to get them round.

The C2's had to come from western France, it's quite possible that for such a small number of cars it wasn't worth the hassle of getting approvals for such a long load to the port, so it was easier to split them into smaller loads that didn't have so many restrictions on their movement. (It's around 700km from Mulhouse to the Mediterranean port of Marseille for example, but they may have shipped them via North Sea port, so even further overland first.)

I don't know how the 302's go to Mulhouse either. It's possible Alstom delivered them new in segments for some reason over access to the city, so they left the same way, in pieces.

I'd say there is route assessment case by case for these sorts of things. If the manufacturer can find a carrier and route that can take the vehicles complete, they do it, but if such a route doesn't exist or is 'complicated', they split cars into multiple smaller loads.

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matthewg wrote: You still need intersections wide enough to get them round.

The C2's had to come from western France, it's quite possible that for such a small number of cars it wasn't worth the hassle of getting approvals for such a long load to the port, so it was easier to split them into smaller loads that didn't have so many restrictions on their movement. (It's around 700km from Mulhouse to the Mediterranean port of Marseille for example, but they may have shipped them via North Sea port, so even further overland first.)

I don't know how the 302's go to Mulhouse either. It's possible Alstom delivered them new in segments for some reason over access to the city, so they left the same way, in pieces.

I'd say there is route assessment case by case for these sorts of things. If the manufacturer can find a carrier and route that can take the vehicles complete, they do it, but if such a route doesn't exist or is 'complicated', they split cars into multiple smaller loads.
Bombardier (Berlin) and Skoda (Plzen) deliver trams up to 40-45 metres in one piece all over Europe. I'd imagine trams only have to be broken up if there is some restriction getting into the the city they're being delivered to.

The fact that the Gold Coast trams were craned in and out of a ship in one piece indicates that there's quite a degree of sophistication in moving these objects nowadays. It's not that they're getting their backs broken. Unless....oops :oops: :

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