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'The Hop' Branding Rollout

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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby moa999 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:58 pm

Well the new Green T8 and light blue T2 means ait of these signs now need to get replaced.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system ... g-2017.pdf
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby swtt » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:45 pm

moa999 wrote:Well the new Green T8 and light blue T2 means ait of these signs now need to get replaced.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system ... g-2017.pdf
Those signs are hardly permanent and can be reprinted at very little cost anyway

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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Richard290 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:13 pm

The extension of T2 to Parramatta defeats the purpose of utilising the Homebush turnback for terminating Inner West trains. Currently the six tracks reduce to four just west of Homebush. Also, I thought that Auburn, Clyde, and Harris Park would be skipped permanently by T1 trains and only served by T2?


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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby mandonov » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:04 pm

T1 will likely serve those stations on the weekends, as the announcement says T2 to Parramatta is weekday only.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby BeauGiles » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:06 pm

moa999 wrote:Well the new Green T8 and light blue T2 means ait of these signs now need to get replaced.

https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/system ... g-2017.pdf

Presumably why a lot of the signage has been corflute :)
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:05 pm

Maybe they are waiting for this timetable/network change to roll out and then they'll add the more detailed platform signage more across the network at bigger stations. I'd give it the thumbs up!
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby swtt » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:18 am

I am suspecting in 2019 there will be a new T9 - Hornsby - Nth Sydney via Strathfield created again if they could do T8 today.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Richard290 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:48 pm

swtt wrote:I am suspecting in 2019 there will be a new T9 - Hornsby - Nth Sydney via Strathfield created again if they could do T8 today.

Definitely the return of the red Northern Line, like it should have been.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby simonl » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:12 am

^ Why should it have been?
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Stu » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:37 am

In recent minutes months, stations along the T2 Airport line have had the standard orange hop signs signifying the station name. In more recent weeks, the remaining smaller signage has been installed. This includes signage for platforms, access, toilets ect. This is one example of the Liberal party going all out to remove any trace of public transport signage from the previous Labour government.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Campbelltown busboy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:09 am

Stu wrote:In recent minutes months, stations along the T2 Airport line have had the standard orange hop signs signifying the station name. In more recent weeks, the remaining smaller signage has been installed. This includes signage for platforms, access, toilets ect. This is one example of the Liberal party going all out to remove any trace of public transport signage from the previous Labour government.
There are still a couple of stations between Macarthur and Glenfield that have the white signs with the green line under the stations name those stations are Leumeah and Macquarie Fields
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Aurora » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:31 pm

Disagree about the political motive. If they were going all out, it would have all been done 3-4 years ago rather than as strung out as it has predictably ended up.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby kypros1992 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:55 am

Aurora wrote:Disagree about the political motive. If they were going all out, it would have all been done 3-4 years ago rather than as strung out as it has predictably ended up.


The trial went out in 2013. TfNSW made a decision to alter the original design which delayed the initial rollout, new programme came out in 2014 with from what I heard a 4-5 year rollout which seems fair given the number of assets
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Aurora » Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:45 pm

kypros1992 wrote:
Aurora wrote:Disagree about the political motive. If they were going all out, it would have all been done 3-4 years ago rather than as strung out as it has predictably ended up.


The trial went out in 2013. TfNSW made a decision to alter the original design which delayed the initial rollout, new programme came out in 2014 with from what I heard a 4-5 year rollout which seems fair given the number of assets

Point being if the motive was politics, they would have been a lot more aggressive in the rollout to erase the prior "Labor" brand.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby boronia » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:23 pm

The section of TfNSW tasked with the roll out probably enjoys its work. No point in rushing things and making yourself redundant. Take long enough to hang in the for the next theme.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby moa999 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:59 pm

In my mind though the 'M' branding that we look like getting for the Metro is political.

Non-political it would just be a T and line T9 (or T10 if they also rebrand the North Shore segment of T1)

Private operated buses are no different to STA, same three digit route number, (eventually) same livery.

The Metro is a train, just single deck, like much of the Sydney fleet was for many years, and driverless.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Swift » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:35 pm

If they could run a P.T.C era S set on it, you would have a strong case, but as it is autonomous from the rest of the network and is much more metro in flavour, I think they can get away with it.
M designation may lead to a push for expansion if it is a runaway success and works noticeably better than the "old" T network.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Tonymercury » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:02 am

boronia wrote:The section of TfNSW tasked with the roll out probably enjoys its work. No point in rushing things and making yourself redundant. Take long enough to hang in the for the next theme.


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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:40 pm

Okay, looks like the hop has taken over the section between Glenfield and Merrylands...

Casula, Warwick Farm, Canley Vale, Yennora, Guildford and Merrylands have received the new signs over the last few weeks from what I can remember.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Swift » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:03 pm

^ I wonder why it has taken so long for those stations to receive this dressing?
Are any stations in more affluent areas still waiting?
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:18 pm

Swift wrote:^ I wonder why it has taken so long for those stations to receive this dressing?


Because they voted Labor. Thats why. It's not like you'd want the refit though!!!

Anyways here I am at Gordon, here's your way finding. 2-3. 2 to 3 what? Chickens? Hours to get down the stairs? Just what? Where? Wheres the arrows? And look at all that wasted space next to the numbers. It is an absolute eyesore, glad Gordon isn't my home station.

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Gordon before Gladys touched it - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... course.jpg - of course, infinitely better. (except for one possible oversight, Platform 1 isn't even in regular use I believe, 2 and 3 have the timetabled services.)
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby moa999 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:27 pm

And with a few ticketing relics visible as well.
Plat 1 certainly was used for a number of morning services.l that commenced at Gordon.
The regulars preferred these as they got a guaranteed seat
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Swift » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 pm

When did they cease Gordon starters? What do they do with this platform one now?
I presume 2 and 3 are the main ones. It has been years since I used Gordon, possibly decades.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby andy_centralcoast » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:26 pm

Gordon is still used as a terminating / starting station in the weekday the morning peak. Lindfield is no longer.
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Re: 'The Hop' Branding Rollout

Postby Tonymercury » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:50 am

andy_centralcoast wrote:Gordon is still used as a terminating / starting station in the weekday the morning peak. Lindfield is no longer.



Perhaps 'at the moment' needs to be added to that.
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