Light rail gets the green light: stage 1 UNSW to CBD

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I watched a training run come past Central about 7 this morning. It got the T light through the pedestrian crossing in Eddy Ave, and at most only waited a couple of seconds for the T light to cross Pitt St.

Maybe they are getting their act together?
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I hope these street Tangaras have good pick up. They'll need it!
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I timed a couple of trams on George St crossing Hay St the other day.

From a standing start it took 42 seconds to clear the intersection, with a rolling pass about 33 seconds
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boronia wrote:
From a standing start it took 42 seconds to clear the intersection, with a rolling pass about 33 seconds
Sounds about right with these silly looking coupled sets.
I have a hunch they will get separated, if for no other reason motorists complaints.
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They can't separate them for capacity reasons, without halving the frequency. Two minute separations more likely to result in bunching.

Two single trams would probably require more cumulative crossing time than one double set
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I would agree but would we be able to convince the motorists of that?
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Swift wrote:I hope these street Tangaras have good pick up. They'll need it!
Swift wrote:Sounds about right with these silly looking coupled sets.
I have a hunch they will get separated, if for no other reason motorists complaints.
Do you seriously ever think before you type? All I'm seeing is word vomit and dismissive comments. I've said this before: these are not "Street Tangaras"; these are proper genuine trams! And they're just as valid as any other model of tram, old and new. Hell you might as well call EVERY modern articulated tram a "Street Tangara" if that's your type of attitude. And none of it comes with constructive critique. Why even bother? To be edgy and get attention? You're just full of XXX most of the time, and also inconsistent. One moment your showing enthusiasm for this project, the next you're calling it a "glorified travelator". Then you give the trams (which they definitely are trams) mild praise, the next you call them "silly looking" and deride them for being coupled, despite Sydney's original system operating this way. You wanna talk about how "silly looking" the old toast racks were too? I just don't get you. You need to take several seats, then come back when have something worthy of typing. Just quit being an idiot cause no one's impressed.

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They only finished work on the Kensington stop and few days ago, and on Friday:
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Swift wrote:
boronia wrote:I have a hunch they will get separated, if for no other reason motorists complaints.
Has been made clear on a number of occasions that they will operate as doubles.

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STMPainter2018 wrote:Just quit being an idiot cause no one's impressed.
At least this idiot strives to use the right wording when expressing himself.
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First pedestrian v tram incident today with a teenager taken to hospital.

From the pics looks like it occured around Lang Rd

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boronia wrote:They only finished work on the Kensington stop and few days ago, and on Friday:
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Rectifying defects? :shock: :shock:

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If he got hit by a bus or a car, it probably wouldn't make the news.

I was at Chalmers St yesterday morning; a tram was just leaving, heading towards Devonshire St and the pedestrian lights went green just before the tram got there, and it had to brake suddenly.
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Saw him on the news. Charles Darwin comes to mind when you look at his face -the theory that is.
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The video suggests little anticipation by the driver - seemingly no slackening of acceleration and, more significantly, no use of the bell. It can be seen in the distance that he victim was acting in an unstable manner. Important to "read" the actions of pedestrians as you approach.
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Sydney light rail had its first ped accident today hitting a young teenager...... also first day of the school holidays.....latter police charged a 15 year old male.television news on channel 7 shows the teenager being hit. trams go faster than the old days and are much silent...... thoughts go out to the new driver. :roll: I THINK THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF SOILED UNDERWEAR if people don't get of their tablets & phones whist walking around near trams also buses in the city. :shock: :shock:

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Need some more of lights on the floor like in China town [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Don't feel too sorry for him, he was just outright being a dumbass, wasn't even on phone.
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No audio, so you can't hear whether a bell was rung.

The kid definitely hadn't recognised the approaching tram, was focused on the other one, and his mates on the other side
Given the timing of his approach, can only assume he was trying to impress his mates by jumping over the join between the two sets.

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These trams are generally operated slower than the old trams but quieter. Use of the bell is going to be very important. We haven't seen anything yet compared to what will come with electric buses. The Yutong has an electronic bell but I don't know what sort of signal the BYD has. As a side note, it raises the question in my mind of what sort of warning signal the old Sydney trolley buses had.
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It looks like he was trying to cross the tracks, but there was already a tram on the other side in the way. It even looks like he did this deliberately. Good on the cops for fining him, they should do this more often.

Gongs, horns, whistles, reversing alarms, even sirens on emergency vehicles, do not seem to register with a lot of people.
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tonyp wrote:Use of the bell is going to be very important.
The Citadis X05 here has the same bell as the Inner West Urbos trams...which is then the same bell as Melbournes E Class. That bell sound, I am growing quite fond of it.

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Jurassic_Joke wrote:
The Citadis X05 here has the same bell as the Inner West Urbos trams...which is then the same bell as Melbournes E Class. That bell sound, I am growing quite fond of it.
It drives me crazy - like Santa Claus or an ice cream truck on steroids! I prefer the European clatter gong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OJD8XxAB0
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tonyp wrote: It drives me crazy - like Santa Claus or an ice cream truck on steroids! I prefer the European clatter gong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OJD8XxAB0
The first one must be an Australian driver. :roll:
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