How much has the government recovered the cost of road construction from road users?simonl wrote:Continuing the bagging of MyZone, farebox recovery figures are:
Cityrail 2008/9: 27%
Cityrail 2010/11: 22%
Metro Buses 2008/9: 41%
Metro Buses 2010/11: 32%
Outer Metro Buses 2008/9: 14%
Outer Metro Buses 2010/11: 11%
Patronage has only increased marginally too.
Allowing the privates into the Travelpass system will require just as much effort and without the advantage of improving PT usage in the outskirt.simonl wrote:Just allowing the privates into the Travelpass system could have been done with (at a guess) 1/10th the effort put into MyZone so far as I can see, so I'm confused by your argument: "that would have needed more time to achieve". I certainly cannot see how it would be more effort.
As for the bus/ferry travelpasses - just remove them from sale. Easy.
I don't know but this change meant that the recovery was redistributed away from those living more sustainable lifestyles by living closer to where they work.stupid_girl wrote:How much has the government recovered the cost of road construction from road users?
It put some new colours on the tickets?I'm still waiting for a reasonable comment on what the advantage of MyZone was besides getting privates (+Newcastle Buses) into the Travelpass/MyMulti system?
These are reasonable, if minor, advantages. I don't think they offset the leakage involved.moa999 wrote:It made the fare system much simpler and easier for the user to understand.
It meant users who travelled on different routes didn't have to carry multiple TravelTen's
I'm sure it was.moa999 wrote:It also frankly discounted longer trips (which may have been an aim??)
Don't think so - has info about what Opal is, the trial, and expansion to Manly in second quarter 2013.moa999 wrote:Any new information in the FAQ ??
The 4 top-up points are all near the various ferry wharves - smart.
How many with the cards selected auto top-up versus cash?
I am an auto top-up.
They had this diagram since the day it was announced:moa999 wrote:Thanks.
I would have thought they might have added some of the other smaller routes before trying to smash the system with the Manly ferry loads.
Seems a very slow start.
Particularly given Rail was scheduled to test from mid-2013.
I had "hoped" that they would have had 100% of the ferry system near operational before rail starts.
The default fare has to be more than the standard trip fare to make sure people tap off, otherwise they are out of pocket more than they should be.moa999 wrote:So the default fare is $7 (ie. MyFerry2)....
Despite all of the test service being MyFerry1 - ie $5.60.
Yes, I just realised its about 27 minutes!mubd wrote:How long does the Neutral Bay ferry service take? If it's less than 30 minutes, you can take the loop trip and tap off at Circular Quay for a free ride. I'm pretty sure it's less than 30 minutes.
mubd wrote:How long does the Neutral Bay ferry service take? If it's less than 30 minutes, you can take the loop trip and tap off at Circular Quay for a free ride. I'm pretty sure it's less than 30 minutes.
Anyway mine came just then:Boxythingy wrote:Hmm, I'm wondering if there will suddenly be ticket inspectors (with new Opal machines) to do some testing tomorrow?
It's about 30mins for the full loopmubd wrote:How long does the Neutral Bay ferry service take? If it's less than 30 minutes, you can take the loop trip and tap off at Circular Quay for a free ride. I'm pretty sure it's less than 30 minutes.
Agreed. I hope after the trial, the production cards will come with the option of the owner's name embedded/printed on the card, like registered Myki cards.kypros1992 wrote: Was it really necessary to put the phone numbers of users on the card?
The courier still has 1 hour left to deliver all of them.mubd wrote:Haven't received my Opal card. How were they posted?
I live about 7km from the CBD, near Maroubra, so I'm unsure if they would bother delivering it to me if they're just dropping the cards off personally.
