That does not happen on my Nexus 5x. And the card is in Google Pay as I paid the fare by tapping my phone. 'Public Transport' taps are recorded in Google Pay.moa999 wrote:As has the Android version.
Also autofills with any card details saved in GooglePay (still requires CVV)
Not for me. The number keypad pops up. No offer to autofill. The Nexus 5x is one major release of Android behind now. (8.1.0)moa999 wrote:Doesn't happen automatically.
I need to tap in CC field and up pops a box listing the various cards I have registered.
I'm using a Nokia running 9.0 so maybe that's it.matthewg wrote: Not for me. The number keypad pops up. No offer to autofill. The Nexus 5x is one major release of Android behind now. (8.1.0)
The trend internationally is 'contactless' will replace 'closed-loop' operator-specific cards. Google and Apple are adding support for such cards (Mobile Myki in Melbourne for example), but the future is using 'open loop' EMV format cards issued by banks.Fleet Lists wrote:That is fine for people with an Opal Card but I thought contactless was basically intended for people without an Opal Card.
A future government might one day experiment with facial recognition to use as a payment method option for public transport faresmatthewg wrote:The trend internationally is 'contactless' will replace 'closed-loop' operator-specific cards. Google and Apple are adding support for such cards (Mobile Myki in Melbourne for example), but the future is using 'open loop' EMV format cards issued by banks.
It might take a few years, but I fully expect they will cease offering Adult Opal cards. They will live on only for concession fares and staff passes, even that will die eventually, they will just register a specific card number to get special fares. The specific card may have Opal branding all over it, but it will be a bank-issued EMV card, not a transport operator issued MiFare card.
The Uni I worked for several years ago issued student ID cards that were also bank debit cards. They stopped doing it when the access control system moved to MiFare prox cards - it was too much trouble to have bank contactless and prox security access applications on the same chip. (Technically possible but no one wants to muck around doing the interop testing of two applications on the one card). But it does mean the banks are quite happy to do co-branded cards.
See
https://www.auspaynet.com.au/sites/defa ... keting.pdf
for some background. (Interview with TfL about open-loop ticketing)
The trend is obvious. Opal as we know it is now dying. It will take years, but the direction is now set away from the Opal MiFare Desfire EV1 closed-loop system.
I suspect any such proposal will get tied up in court action for years. The trouble with the idea is it's not opt-in. It's blanket everyone. You walk past a camera, you are IDed. If they cover the 'gateline' with hires facial recognition capable cameras, that system is IDing EVERYONE that walks past.Campbelltown busboy wrote: A future government might one day experiment with facial recognition to use as a payment method option for public transport fares
Not automatically I believe, but it's not hard for a skilled operator to match up the card tap log with the CCTV timestamp. It might take them viewing several stations or days worth of CCTV to be sure of a match if they are all crowded stations, but they will be able to do it.boronia wrote:I believe they are already linking CCTV images to Opal cards. If the card is not registered, they still have an image of you on file.
Only if you live far enough out and commute far enough to hit the cap. I used to get free weekend travel, which I did take advantage of. It will take several more fare increases before I hit the new (lower) weekly cap. Knowing my luck the fare increase that means I hit the $50 cap will be accompanied by an increase in the cap to ensure the number of people hitting it doesn't increase too much.Jurassic_Joke wrote:I really love the new lowered weekly cap. I reach it Thursday night or Friday arvo. Perfecto
It is actually quite similar to the old 8 and free scheme in terms if you spent that much on 8 trips and then get to enjoy free unrestricted travel for the rest of the week instead of half price fares
Not just how far out you live from Sydney (or wherever your workplace is), but also number of trips taken. I don't live that far from the CBD, but the number of trips I take = I will most often reach the new cap anyway.matthewg wrote:Only if you live far enough out and commute far enough to hit the cap. I used to get free weekend travel, which I did take advantage of. It will take several more fare increases before I hit the new (lower) weekly cap. Knowing my luck the fare increase that means I hit the $50 cap will be accompanied by an increase in the cap to ensure the number of people hitting it doesn't increase too much.Jurassic_Joke wrote:I really love the new lowered weekly cap. I reach it Thursday night or Friday arvo. Perfecto
It is actually quite similar to the old 8 and free scheme in terms if you spent that much on 8 trips and then get to enjoy free unrestricted travel for the rest of the week instead of half price fares
I obviously live to close to my place of employment.
But the lack of "Tap on reversed" is a problem. Not even "Transfer" was shown when it should've been shown. 
https://transportnsw.info/news/2019/con ... s-servicesTransit Systems West is the latest bus operator to have the contactless payment technology fitted, so you can now tap on and off using your credit card on Opal readers on Transit Systems West bus services in Tempe, Marrickville, Sydenham, Newtown, Canterbury and Dulwich Hill.
