[Western Advocate] Bathurst to Sydney rail service

[BroadGauge]

Wow another person too afraid to leave their computer and take a look. I have done that today, and let me tell you, at 230 the train was full

Because an hourly 4-car train passing through Springwood carrying passengers for all stations through to Lithgow was full, it means there's demand to sextuplicate the amount of capacity provided there?

[gilberations]

why are you all so afraid of planing for the future. Built it and they will come!

[mackinenator]

Wow another person too afraid to leave their computer and take a look. I have done that today, and let me tell you, at 230 the train was full

Whereabouts was this train at 230? I believe it, but I just want to check.

Because an hourly 4-car train passing through Springwood carrying passengers for all stations through to Lithgow was full, it means there's demand to sextuplicate the amount of capacity provided there?

It would be good if the trains could have more more cars added though.

why are you all so afraid of planing for the future. Built it and they will come!

Doubtful, unless Lithgow's going to have a massive population increase. The Blue Mountains hasn't got that much more space left.
We'll see what services will be running once the new TT has been made up.

[BroadGauge]

why are you all so afraid of planing for the future.

Where are all these extra passengers going to come from? About the only market for extra passengers on West InterCity trains is convincing people to switch from driving cars.

Not like there's a lot of land to build more houses on in the Blue Mountains nor is there anybody wanting high density development (rightfully given the nature of the area).

Built it and they will come!

Plenty of people have said that when starting businesses and ended up going broke.

[Mr Twig]

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I couldn't find any info. Will this service be stopping at stations between Lithgow and Bathurst (ie Rydal, Wallerawang? etc)

To answer my own question, Initially no, but it's looks like it may in the near future.

[boxythingy]

With the network wide timetable changes expected in October, the first Bathurst Service will depart from Lithgow at 5:19am and arrive at Bathurst at 6:22am on the 21st October 2012. It will subsequently form the Bathurst 7:28am service, stopping at: Lithgow, Mt Victoria, Katoomba, Springwood(d), Penrith(d), Parramatta(d) and then Central (11:06i)

http://www.cityrail.info/timetables/tim ... ndingPoint

[Xplorer]

With the network wide timetable changes expected in October, the first Bathurst Service will depart from Lithgow at 5:19am and arrive at Bathurst at 6:22am on the 21st October 2012. It will subsequently form the Bathurst 7:28am service, stopping at: Lithgow, Mt Victoria, Katoomba, Springwood(d), Penrith(d), Parramatta(d) and then Central (11:06i)

http://www.cityrail.info/timetables/tim ... ndingPoint

optional stop at Bell???!!!!!!

[CityRail]

It is clear that the late night Bathurst - Lithgow is too late to operate.

If the train arrives Bathurst at 9.38pm why it needs an hour wait before it goes back to Lithgow and there's no train service connecting to anywhere until the next morning?

I recoknd if the Bathurst late night service can leave at 9.50pm arrive Lithgow at 10.54pm then the current 10.36pm Lithgow to Central (i) can simply depart 20 mins later (i.e. 10.56pm) and people in Bathurst can have another train service to the City.

[simonl]

Sorry to see (d) stops making an unwelcome return. That archaic practice had been phased out.

[boronia]

Will they have a line up of cops on the platforms to stop people from boarding ?

[Newcastle Flyer]

Sorry to see (d) stops making an unwelcome return. That archaic practice had been phased out.

Unwelcome return?? Lithgow - Springwood & Springwood to Sydney Central & v.v. have a train just after (or before). It's not really meant for a Lithgow - Central service.

[boxythingy]

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[willoughby 'ductor]

As at 2 pm the Blue Mountains timetable from 21 October has been adjusted on 131500 but the Western suburban line changes are not shown (eg stops removed from 0708 weekday Springwood - Central, new service from Penrith at 0742).

[BroadGauge]

For the insane rail enthusiasts, you can even do a round trip from Sydney to Bathurst using the new service in a sort-of-day using these times:

Dep Central (i) 12:18am - Lithgow 3:09am
Dep Lithgow 3:37am - Bathurst 4:40am

Dep Bathurst 5:48am - Central (i) 9:25am

[boronia]

With the network wide timetable changes expected in October, the first Bathurst Service will depart from Lithgow at 5:19am and arrive at Bathurst at 6:22am on the 21st October 2012. It will subsequently form the Bathurst 7:28am service, stopping at: Lithgow, Mt Victoria, Katoomba, Springwood(d), Penrith(d), Parramatta(d) and then Central (11:06i)

For the insane rail enthusiasts, you can even do a round trip from Sydney to Bathurst using the new service in a sort-of-day using these times:

Dep Central (i) 12:18am - Lithgow 3:09am
Dep Lithgow 3:37am - Bathurst 4:40am

Dep Bathurst 5:48am - Central (i) 9:25am

So which is the correct timetable ?? Or are there TWO services from Bathurst ??

And can a return trip be made with the PM departure from Sydney ?

[745-Castle Hill]

Boxythingy is describing the Sunday (Weekend) timetable while Broadgauge is describing the Weekday timetable.

[crimsontide]

Sorry to see (d) stops making an unwelcome return. That archaic practice had been phased out.

Going by that logic we would have Countrylink services picking up at stations on their trips back to Sydney.

[simonl]

Sorry to see (d) stops making an unwelcome return. That archaic practice had been phased out.

Going by that logic we would have Countrylink services picking up at stations on their trips back to Sydney.

That would make sense, but a booked seat service of a different standard with different fares presents a few obstacles to overcome.

[boxythingy]

Boxythingy is describing the Sunday (Weekend) timetable while Broadgauge is describing the Weekday timetable.

Yes, the first service on the 21st October happens to be a Sunday.

[boronia]

Sorry to see (d) stops making an unwelcome return. That archaic practice had been phased out.

Going by that logic we would have Countrylink services picking up at stations on their trips back to Sydney.

Why not sell vacant seats, at a small premium to CityRail fares.

Release them say 6 hrs prior to departure, cash fares only (no prepaid tickets).

[crimsontide]

We have regular commuter services to pick up people traveling to Sydney, there is no need for Countrylink services to pick up.

[simonl]

We have regular commuter services to pick up people traveling to Sydney, there is no need for Countrylink services to pick up.

You crack me up.

[crimsontide]

We have regular commuter services to pick up people traveling to Sydney, there is no need for Countrylink services to pick up.

You crack me up.

Suggesting Countrylink services lose there set down only stops had the same effect on me.

[simonl]

Suggesting Countrylink services lose there set down only stops had the same effect on me.

But I didn't say that.

[crimsontide]

So what happens to the (d) stops for Countrylink, are they are archaic practice?