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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Frosty » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:33 pm

moa999 wrote:And the B-Line will add yet another livery -- all change for political reasons - something new and shiny to get publicity

Fact is changes take time. On the airline side Qantas introduced the New Roo in 2007 and there are still a bunch of aircraft without it.

Also been noticing the short red Metro buses on the 311,324,325 routes recently - is this a recent change, certainly looks odd.


Well with T-Way the livery for that went out of the window.

With the short metrobus is the one CNG surplus buses from metrobus operations from W hence operating 311,324,325 and other W standard bus routes.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby fm2790. » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:03 pm

Frosty wrote:The pace of progress is too slow. STA is now a lost cause with TfNSW livered buses. It feels unusual to see a MB O405NH CNG STA bus in TfNSW. The Scania L113CRLs aren't too bad in terms of look and numbers for TfNSW livered buses. Meanwhile I've noticed a few Volvo B10BLEs in V2 livered would like to see it in TfNSW livery.





From previous experiences with observing liveries, it was quite obvious that the TfNSW livery was fast becoming a thing from the past. I don't ever think the bus companies will ever get around to painting their entire fleets in this livery. This clause in the bus companies contracts are just a joke.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:15 pm

That depends on the wording. The early contracts were not specific in this area unlike the latest ones which are specific and companies like Punchbowl and Transit Systems have complied by having all their contract buses now in the new livery. I would think that other future contracts will also be more specific in this area.
And the new livery can probably also not be enforced on pre contract (2007) buses.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Frosty » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:19 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:That depends on the wording. The early contracts were not specific in this area unlike the latest ones which are specific and companies like Punchbowl and Transit Systems have complied by having all their contract buses now in the new livery. I would think that other future contracts will also be more specific in this area.
And the new livery can probably also not be enforced on pre contract (2007) buses.



Interesting why pre 2007 buses. Hence why at P depot there is only one TfNSW livered O405NH gassie. Though there are the Euro 5 B12s and Mercedes Benz OC500LEs non CNG and CNG models that could be enforced since most of them are between 2007-2011. V are good at getting there B12s in TfNSW livery while R & M is doing mostly the Scania L113CRLs. What is going on with Y and P with TfNSW liveried buses.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:44 pm

17 more in the space of 2 months - maily new buses at STa and Transdev nd 1 repaint at Dions.
Busabout……………………. 52 …………. 3.63% ………….
Coastal Liner……………….. 2 ………….. 0.14%
Dions………………………… 5 …………. 0.35% …………. 1
Forest Coach Lines……….. 28 ………… 1.96% ………….
Interline……………………… 44 …………. 3.07% ………….
Unknown Operators……….. 4 …………. 0.28% ………….
Port Stephens………………. 5 …………. 0.35% ………….
Premier Illawarra…………… 46 …………. 3.21% ………….
Punchbowl………………….. 53 …………. 3.70% ………….
Red Bus Service…………… 22 …………. 1.54% ………….
Rover Motors…………….. 16 …………. 1.12% ………….
Transdev…………………… 72 …………. 5.03% …………. 7
CDC ………………………… 229 …………. 15.99% ………….
Busways……………………. 131 …………. 9.15% ………….
STA………………………….. 571 …………. 39.87% …………. 9
Transit Systems……….. 152 …………. 10.61%
………………………………. 1432 …………. 100.00% …………. 17
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Punchbowl Tiger Cub » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:54 am

Will be a reduction in numbers next week as a number of TfNSW painted vehicles are retired from one operator and have been sold to a charter operator.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Swift » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:31 pm

They will certainly have to paint that out before using it. Most likely just the blue parts painted out white.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:03 pm

Previous ones gone to a charter operaror have been used in full Tnsw livery - there are even some in Adelaide.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Swift » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:28 pm

Probably breaking regulations doing so in NSW.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:38 am

Telfords operated one for quite some time as seen here in 2014 http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-9816
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Daniel » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:04 am

Sorry, there is no such regulation.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby captainch » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:04 am

notes yesterday most new BUSWAYS buses on the central coast are A.O.A & THE ONLY BLUE & WHITE AREthe front and the rear bumber bar is dark blue the rest of the bus is adds! why bother paiting them most times the rear desto number is a busways logo!
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu May 05, 2016 5:27 pm

Another two months (or a little bit more) and we have only gone up by although as predicted Transit Systems have gone down by 8.
Busabout……………………. 52 …………. 3.60% ………….
Coastal Liner……………….. 2 ………….. 0.14%
Dions………………………… 5 …………. 0.35% ………….
Forest Coach Lines……….. 32 ………… 2.22% …………. 4
Interline……………………… 44 …………. 3.05% ………….
Unknown Operators……….. 4 …………. 0.28% ………….
Port Stephens………………. 5 …………. 0.35% ………….
Premier Illawarra…………… 46 …………. 3.19% ………….
Punchbowl………………….. 54 …………. 3.74% …………. 1
Red Bus Service…………… 24 …………. 1.66% …………. 2
Rover Motors…………….. 16 …………. 1.11% ………….
Transdev…………………… 73 …………. 5.06% …………. 1
CDC ………………………… 236 …………. 16.35% …………. 7
Busways……………………. 133 …………. 9.22% …………. 2
STA………………………….. 573 …………. 39.71% …………. 2
Transit Systems……….. 144 …………. 9.98% -8
………………………………. 1443 …………. 100.00% …………. 11

All the impetus seems to have gone out of this.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:36 pm

Another two months
Busabout……………………. 56 …………. 3.82% …………. 4
Coastal Liner……………….. 2 ………….. 0.14%
Dions………………………… 6 …………. 0.41% …………. 1
Forest Coach Lines……….. 37 ………… 2.53% …………. 5
Interline……………………… 44 …………. 3.00% …………. 2
Unknown Operators……….. 4 …………. 0.27% ………….
Port Stephens………………. 5 …………. 0.34% ………….
Premier Illawarra…………… 46 …………. 3.14% ………….
Punchbowl………………….. 57 …………. 3.89% …………. 3
Red Bus Service…………… 24 …………. 1.64% ………….
Rover Motors…………….. 16 …………. 1.09% ………….
Transdev…………………… 75 …………. 5.12% …………. 2
CDC ………………………… 240 …………. 16.38% …………. 4
Busways……………………. 133 …………. 9.08% ………….
STA………………………….. 575 …………. 39.25% ………….
Transit Systems……….. 145 …………. 9.90% 1
………………………………. 1465 …………. 100.00% …………. 22
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby OLYMPIAN » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:01 pm

The unknown operator including demo?
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:21 pm

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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby busspot » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:37 pm

Hillsbus'es seen in TfNSW livery recently
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:23 am

Busabout……………………. 57 …………. 3.83% …………. 1
Coastal Liner……………….. 2 ………….. 0.13%
Dions………………………… 6 …………. 0.40% ………….
Forest Coach Lines……….. 37 ………… 2.49% ………….
Interline……………………… 46 …………. 3.09% …………. 2
Unknown Operators……….. 6 …………. 0.40% …………. 2
Port Stephens………………. 5 …………. 0.34% ………….
Premier Illawarra…………… 46 …………. 3.09% ………….
Punchbowl………………….. 57 …………. 3.83% ………….
Red Bus Service…………… 24 …………. 1.61% ………….
Rover Motors…………….. 16 …………. 1.08% ………….
Transdev…………………… 74 …………. 4.97% …………. -1
CDC ………………………… 251 …………. 16.87% …………. 11
Busways……………………. 133 …………. 8.94% ………….
STA………………………….. 580 …………. 38.98% …………. 5
Transit Systems……….. 148 …………. 9.95% 3
………………………………. 1488 …………. 100.00% …………. 23
This does not yet include the three Hillsbus ones advised in the previous post.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Swift » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:27 pm

At this rate we will have hovering buses before we ever see anywhere near 100% TNSW livery.
I think it is safe to say that the TNSW livery idea (like so many NSW government initiatives) has fallen out of favour due to it no longer feeling like a "fresh start".
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Frosty » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:00 pm

Well one operator *cough* STA has been repainting most of its buses in corporate V2 mostly the O405NHs and the Ansair Scania. Since TfNSW won't pay for the repaint into TfNSW livery.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Swift » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:45 pm

I must say, in the case of the 0405NH gas heaters, thank goodness after I saw 1213 the other day.
Deep blue waistband looks a lot better than pastel blue chevrons thanks.
Though, I'd like to see a few more Orana style Volvo B10BLEs be the recipient of the chevrons.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby burrumbus » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:58 pm

It makes you wonder what the point and cost of the TFNSW livery exercise is if STA -the government operator ,is no longer repainting their buses in it.
Unfortunately it has just left the Sydney route bus fleet across all the contracted operators just a hotch potch of different liveries,without proper branding of individual operators ,or routes.Really the current situation has completely defeated the purpose of carrying out the TFNSW exercise.
Should have just left it as it was..
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby iamthouth » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:14 pm

With 1488 TfNSW liveried buses of about 5092 in the metro areas (Sydney and Outer), the current percentage is about 29%. Most operators are around this percentage, with Coastal Liner, Port Stephens and Transdev trailing, and Busabout, Punchbowl and Transit Systems ahead. As stated previously, with updated liveries mostly applied to new buses or at mid-life refurb, it will take at least 12 years from when the new livery commenced until all are done.

Edit 02/08/2016 23:47 - Updated Busabout TVR to figure below by Fleetlist.

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Updated Busabout from 60 to 117 TVR
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby Fleet Lists » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:22 pm

The Busabout percentage should be a lot lower as it is 57 out ot 117 and not out of 60. See the link on page one of this thread.
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Re: Summary of Buses in Transport NSW livery

Postby burrumbus » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:02 am

The only operator who has taken the TFNSW livery seriously is Punchbowl who is very close to having their complete TFNSW fleet repainted.Unfortunately it was also the operator with the most distinctive individual livery.
The least compliant is Transdev,whose fleet is probably the blandest and poorly presented out of all the contracted operators.
In the above list about half of the operators listed have non TFNSW contracted buses in their fleet.Example is Port Stephens whose TFNSW fleet is about 22 buses out of a fleet size of 71.That would alter the percentages of TFNSW to total fleet.
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