Outdated/incorrect signage/information

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby doug c » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:02 pm

iamthouth wrote:
doug c wrote:The Hillsbus Railway Square stop in Pitt St still shows 619 services leaving the city !!!!!!


This was updated Sun 19th December 2010. Just to make sure I checked it earlier this week, there are no 619's displayed at Railway Sq (Pitt St). Both map and timetable were updated for the M61 intro.


Yes it has been updated for a little while.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:01 am

The route 428 bus stop at Canterbury Station has information on it and it says Dullwich Hill instead of Dulwich Hill. That's only trivial, it gets worse. The current 487 route pointer on the telegraph pole at Canterbury Station used to say 478 when it was brand new a few years ago :shock: , today you can still see two yellow stickers with the correctly sequenced numbers have been placed over the same but incorrectly sequenced numbers.

022 industrial route pointer on a telegraph pole on Raymond St facing West Tce at Bankstown, apologies if this has already been mentioned.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby L38 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:49 am

400 pointer next to the railway tracks on that bit of road that connects General Holmes dr/Joyce dr to Botany rd , can't remember what it's called
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby hornetfig » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:30 am

^ General Holmes Drive :). It actually starts at Botany Road.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby lunchbox » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:16 pm

Five pages of incorrect signage have been documented but has ANYONE actually gone the one further step and done something about getting them corrected?

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Glen » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:23 pm

lunchbox wrote:Five pages of incorrect signage have been documented but has ANYONE actually gone the one further step and done something about getting them corrected?

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:55 am

One bus stop on West Botany St (outbound) still has a sticker displaying 425 and the former section point No. 3. This is now route 422 (extended to Kogarah) and in section 8, one bus stop before it becomes section 9.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby fm2790 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:16 pm

Southbound when you come up Brook Road Seaforth, beside the ex TAFE, on one of the poles there is still one pointer sporting the route numbers 169, 172 and 173. Route 172 been the odd one out.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby robert » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:45 pm

fm2790 wrote:Southbound when you come up Brook Road Seaforth, beside the ex TAFE, on one of the poles there is still one pointer sporting the route numbers 169, 172 and 173. Route 172 been the odd one out.

I suspect you mean Frenchs Forest Rd, Seaforth (even though it is the extension of Brook Rd). 172 ceased last December (I think I'm correct in saying).
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:02 am

There is a route pointer for the 409 on Elizabeth St at Ashfield just before the intersection with Frederick Street, it appears to have been masked over with something although that has iether faded or peeled off so the sign is completely visible. I also noticed two 493 route pointers next to each other, I can't remember where it was exactly, probably around East Terrace or West Terrace in Bexley where the 499 used to operate, next time I drive through there I'll have a look and then update this post. :D
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby fm2790 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:19 pm

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doug c wrote:The Hillsbus Railway Square stop in Pitt St still shows 619 services leaving the city !!!!!!

This was updated Sun 19th December 2010. Just to make sure I checked it earlier this week, there are no 619's displayed at Railway Sq (Pitt St). Both map and timetable were updated for the M61 intro.


Yes it has been updated for a little while.[/quote]




Route 619 still exist though. Doesnt that service go to and from Mac Centre now?
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby iamthouth » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:22 pm

fm2790 wrote:Route 619 still exist though. Doesnt that service go to and from Mac Centre now?


It runs Castle Hill to Macquarie Park via Baulkham Hills Junction, M2 and Macquarie Centre/Macquarie Uni Station yes.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby robert » Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:57 pm

There is a route pointer for Route 259 in Plassey Road, North Ryde, near the Macquarie Cemetery entrance. It has been gone a while now.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Skindog the Hawk » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:28 pm

robert wrote:There is a route pointer for Route 259 in Plassey Road, North Ryde, near the Macquarie Cemetery entrance. It has been gone a while now.

There are still a couple of "950" markers in the Merrylands West area...corner of Sherwood Rd & Merrylands Rd (turning right from Sherwood into Merrylands) is one. Dare I ask what the 950 ever was???

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby iamthouth » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:26 pm

There is a Busways 750 routepointer coming out of UWS turning right onto O'Connell St at the State Archives.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby robert » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:00 am

Skindog the Hawk wrote:There are still a couple of "950" markers in the Merrylands West area...corner of Sherwood Rd & Merrylands Rd (turning right from Sherwood into Merrylands) is one. Dare I ask what the 950 ever was???

SD.

950 is/was not a regular bus route number in that area that I know of. Maybe it was to do with the Olympic Games in 2000?
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby robert » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:04 am

iamthouth wrote:There is a Busways 750 routepointer coming out of UWS turning right onto O'Connell St at the State Archives.

750 ran to UWS Werrington/Kingswood only between 15.2.99 and 28.1.04!
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Skindog the Hawk » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:02 am

robert wrote:
Skindog the Hawk wrote:There are still a couple of "950" markers in the Merrylands West area...corner of Sherwood Rd & Merrylands Rd (turning right from Sherwood into Merrylands) is one. Dare I ask what the 950 ever was???

SD.

950 is/was not a regular bus route number in that area that I know of. Maybe it was to do with the Olympic Games in 2000?

Same..I couldn't recall it as a number either - having said that I'll try and take a photo of it next time I'm in the area. There is another 950 route pointer on the other side of Merrylands...memory doesn't quite work at the moment, but I'll see what I can find.

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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:58 am

I've brought this topic back into the spotlight as I've found plenty more examples of STA signage that is outdated and also some examples from private operators as well. I've compiled a long list of examples, some of which have aleready been posted by myself and also some other members as well, so this is just an overall list in total of what I have found since late 2010. I'll post photos in the photo section later tonight. The list has some excamples in GREEN, this means that I have a photo of that example, other examples in BLACK text simple means that a photo is still forthcoming - I need to set some time aside to take the remaining photos.

* I have two CityRail (StateRail) photos that I'll post in the RailCorp (CityRail) outdated signage photo thread.

I'll break up the list and post it in smaller segments.

Metroline 200.
Ocean St, Edgecliff.

254.
i). 254 route pointers. Lyons Rd, Drummoyne (near Marlborough Rd).
ii). 254 route pointer. Lyons Rd, Drummoyne (near Formosa St).


302 & 303.
i). Fontainbleau St (before Napoleon St), Sandringham.
302 & 303 route pointer - inbound. 302 no longer operates in this area.

ii). Napoleon St, Dolls Point.
302 & 303 route pointer - inbound. 302 no longer operates in this area.

iii). Napoleon St, Dolls Point.
302 & 303 route pointer - outbound. 302 no longer operates in this area.

iv). Grand Pde, Brighton-le-Sands.
302 & 303 route sticker on J-stand.


v). Malua St, Dolls Point.
302 & 303 route sticker on J-stand.

vi). Malua St, Dolls Point.
302, 303 & 37? route pointer.

305.
Outdated route pointer. West Botany St & Flora St, Banksia.

Ex 306.
Route pointer. King St, St. Peters Station (opposite Sydney Park).

Ex 409.
i). Dunstaffenage St, Hurlstone Park.
J-stand inbound. No bus routes operate in this street.

ii). Dunstaffenage St, Hurlstone Park.
J-stand outbound. No bus routes operate in this street.

iii). Floss St, Hulstone Park.
Ex 409 J-stand - inbound.

iv). Floss St, Hulstone Park.
Ex 409 J-stand - outbound.

vi). Floss St, Hulstone Park Station.
Ex 409 route pointer - outbound.

vii). Duntroon St, Hulstone Park.
J-stand bus stop has the old section 03 sticker and also under the yellow spray paint it is still possible to read ‘SET DOWN ONLY. BUSES DO NOT PARK HERE’ for ex route 409 - inbound.

viii). Hampden St, Hulstone Park.
J-stand bus stop has ‘SET DOWN ONLY’ for ex route 409 - outbound lay-over area for Hurlstone Park Station services only.

ix). Armstrong & Queen St, Ashfield.
Ex 409 section 04 sticker - inbound.

x). Clissold St, Ashfield. (413 bus stop near Queen St).
Ex 409 (Summer Hill midday diversion) ‘change buses sticker’ - outbound.

xi). Elizabeth St (near Milton St), Ashfield.
Ex 409 route pointer - outbound.


xii). Parramatta Rd (near Harris St), Five Dock.
Ex route 409 route pointer - outbound.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:19 am

Ex 411.
i). J-stand on Frazer St - inbound.

ii). J-stand on Frazer St - outbound.

iii). Ex 411 route pointer on Frazer St - outbound. This route pointer is covered over by a faded NO STOPPING sign, on the back of this sign is an Ex 471 & Ex 499 route pointer.


412 & 413.
i). 412 - Livingstone Rd near Hawkhurst St, Marrickville.
Section 6 sticker is on the wrong bus stop, th next bus stop is Sec 06 which correctly displays this - outbound.

ii). North Pde, Campsie Station - 413 terminus.
413 sticker on the J-stand at the bus stop displays ‘413 Town Hall City’. This service has operated to King St Wharf since approx 2006.

iii). Susses St, Sydney CBD.
412 & 413 route pointer on Sussex St. For an unknown reason it’s not on the actual route.


415.
i). Redman St, Belmore Station.
Bus stop. Short working 415 services used to terminate and begin here.

From Burwood the bus would continue along Burwood Rd athough not drive over the train bridge to the section point (09), instead turning left into Etela St, right into Sudbury St, right into Redman
St, terminate and lay-over at the bus stop. When operating the return trip back to Burwood, the bus would simply make a right turn back onto Burwood Rd and there would be a bus stop immediately after the
turn. This would create confusion for passengers, as they wuld be waiting on the other (wrong) side of the train bridge expecting a bus to turn up, a bus would eventually turn up as the last 415 leaves from Campsie. There are still some 415 services that terminate at Belmore Station although since the Region 6 Review and implementation of routes/services in 2010, there have been some changes. Currently there
are no shifts that make a return trip back to Chiswick upon terminating at Belmore, the shifts will have other routes to be operated or it will be time to sign off.


ii). Etala St & Sudbury St, Belmore (near Belmore station).
Terminating/special route for short working 415 services to Belmore only.

iii). Victoria St, Burwood - Westfields.
415 sticker on the J-pole at the bus stop displays ‘415 terminus and operates between 09:00 AM and 15:00 PM’. Before the Region 6 Review and implementation of new
route/services, the 415 formerly terminated at Burwood Station, although between 09:00 AM & 15:00 PM the 415 would be extended down to Burwood Westfields. Today the 415 operates through Burwood
and continues to Five Dock to terminate at Chiswick terminus.


Ex 421.
i). Castelreagh St & Martin Pl, Sydney CBD.
Ex route 421 sticker on J-stand bus stop - outbound.

Castelreagh St & Market St, Sydney CBD.
ii),. Ex route 421 sticker on J-stand bus stop - outbound.


425.
i). West Botany St & Flora St, Banksia.
Section point on J-stand bus stop.

ii). West Botany St, Banksia.
Section point on J-stand bus stop x 2.

iii). Bay St (before the Seven Ways intersection), Rockdale.
ex route 425 section point on J-stand bus stop.

Ex 435 & Ex 437.
Parramatta Rd & Crystal St, Leichhardt.
ex 435 - 437 route pointer - outbound. This sign includes the 436 which still operates.

Timbrell Drv & Arthur St, Rodd Point.
Ex 437 route pointer - inbound.

Timbrell Drv & Arthur St, Rodd Point.
Ex 437 route pointer - outbound.


445.
i). Crystal St & Douglas St, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer - inbound.

ii). Douglas St & Crystal St, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer - outbound.

iii). Trafalgar St, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer - outbound.

iv). Trafalgar St & Gordon St, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer - outbound.

v). Gordon St & Canterbury Rd, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer - outbound.

vi). Gordon St & Trafalgar St, Petersham.
445 diversion route pointer and INDUSTRIALS route pointer (on the route 412
inbound).

vii). Percival Rd & Douglas St, Stanmore Station.
445 diversion route pointer - outbound.

viii). Norton St & Marion St, Leichhardt. (photo also includes route 10 terminus & 436-438 route pointer)
Old sign for the 445 diversion via Leichhartd Marketplace. 445 now operates permanently via Marketplace.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:46 am

Ex 465.
i). Georges River Rd (near Milton St), Croydon Park.
Ex route 465 route pointer - inbound.

ii). Georges River Rd (near Milton St), Croydon Park.
Ex route 465 route pointer - outbound.

iii). Coronation Pde (before Georges River Rd), Croydon Park.
Ex route 465 route pointer inbound.

iv). Coronation Pde (before Georges River Rd), Croydon Park.
462-466 route pointer inbound. (Ex route 465)

v). Hercules St & Brown St, Ashfield Station.
462-466 route pointer inbound. (Ex route 465)


Ex 471 & 472.
i). Clarke St, Earlwood.
Ex 471 & 472 route pointer - inbound.

ii). Charlotte St, Ashfield.
Ex 471 terminating/special route pointer.

iii). Holden St, Ashfield. (opposite Ashfield Hotel)
Ex 471 & 472 route pointer - inbound.

iv). 472 route pointer.
King St (near Third St), Ashbury - outbound.

v). Ex route 472 sticker and 472 section point 03 on the J-stand at the bus stop
Timbrell Drv, Rodd Pt (Timbrell Park) - inbound.

vi). Ex 472 Rodd Pt terminating services sign.
Mortley Ave, Rodd Pt (Robson Park) - inbound.

vii). Ex 472 sticker on J-stand.
Mortley Ave, Rodd Pt (Robson Park) - outbound. This J-stand has an incorrect section 04 sticker, it should be section 03.


Ex 475.
Bay Street & Moate Ave, Brighton-Le-Sands.
Route pointer - outbound.

Ex 488.
Jeffrey St, Canterbury.
Route pointer - inbound.


491.
Wilga St, Burwood - Westfields.
490-1 route pointer. 491 does not operate in or around Burwood.


492.
Lyons Rd & Renwick Rd, Drummoyne terminus.
492 LSOP route pointer.
This sign is outdated as Little Sisters of The Poor has existed as Scalibrini Aged Care for a number of years.
Lyons Rd & Renwick Rd, Drummoyne terminus.

492 LOSP route pointer.
This sign is not just outdated, it is also incorrectly abbreviated as LOSP intead of LSOP.


Ex 494.
Forest Rd, Bexley (footbridge nefore Frederick St).
i). Route pointer - outbound.

Forest Rd & Stoney Crk Rd, Bexley.
ii). Route pointer - inbound.

Ex 499.
Broughton St (before Georges River Rd), Croydon Park.
i). Ex route 499 route pointer.


Queens Rd, Hurstville.
ii). Ex 499 route pointer.

iii). Bexley Rd (before the intersection of Canterbury Rd), Campsie.
Ex route 499 route pointer.

iv). Parramatta Rd & Croydon Rd, Croydon.
Ex route 499 route pointer.

Ex L03.
Route pointer. Lyons Rd, Drummoyne (near Marlborough Rd) - inbound.

Ex 888 City CBD free bus.
i). Route pointer. Pitt St (turning left from Bridge St).

ii). Route pointer. Pitt St & Bent St, Sydney CBD.

iii). Route pointer. Castlereagh St, Sydney CBD.

iv). Route pointer. Gresham St, Sydney CBD.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:32 am

School Specials. Ex 611, 623, Ex 625, Ex 628 & Ex 651.

Livingstone Rd & Hawkhurst St , Marrickville.
Ex 611 school special route pointer - AM inbound.

Sydenham Rd & Centenial St, Marrickville High.
Ex 628 school special route pointer - AM inbound.

Centennial St, Marrickville High.
J-Stand 1. 623 (to Earlwood) school special route pointer - PM outbound.
This bus now operates further to Kingsgrove Depot.

Centennial St, Marrickville High.
J-Stand 3. Ex 628 & Ex 651 school special route pointer - PM outbound.

Hawkhurst St & Livingstone Rd, Marrickville.
Ex 611 & Ex 651 school special route pointer - PM outbound.

Livingstone Rd & Sydenham Rd, Marrickville.
Ex 611 & Ex 651 school special route pointer - PM outbound.

Enmore Rd & Sydenham Rd, Marrickville.
ex 651 school special route pointer - AM inbound.

Livingstone Rd & Marrickville Rd, Marrickville.
Ex 625 school special route pointer - PM outbound.


Special Event.
Ex 004B. Canterbury Racecourse to Hombush Bay - Sydney Olympic Park.
i). Milton St & Georges River Rd.
Ex 004B route pointer - inbound.

ii). Georges River Rd & Burwood Rd, Croydon Park.
Ex 004B route pointer - outbound.


Rail Replacement Services.
Ex route 5. I’m not sure what this route was used for. I think it may have been for rail replacement for the Airport line in the past. If so, the route numbers have changed since then.
i). Route pointer Railway Rd & Gleeson Ave, Sydenham.
Ex 5 route pointer Railway Rd, Sydenham Station. The route pointer has been cut to the size of the actual numerical character 5 and is on a telegraph pole.

ii). Wollongong Rd, Arncliffe.
Ex 5 route pointer.

iii). Wollongong Rd, Arncliffe (near train bridge underpass).
Ex route 5 Rail Bus sign.

Industrial routes.
Ex 020. Industrial.
i). Burwood Rd (near the intersection of Punchbowl Rd), Belfield.
Ex 020 route pointer.

ii). Leylands Pde (near Burwood Rd), Belmore.
Ex 020 route pointer.


Ex 022. Industrial.
i). William St & Bexley Rd, Clempton Park.
Ex 022 route pointer.


ii). Doyle Rd & Faraday Rd, Padstow (near Padstow Primary).
Ex 022 route pointer.

iii). West Tce & Raymond St, Bankstown.
Ex 022 route pointer.

iv). Greenfield Pde & Chapel Rd, Bankstown (Chinatown).
Ex 022 route pointer.

Micellaneous.
Ex route 9.
Jeffrey St, Canterbury.
Ex route 9 route pointers - inbound & outbound.


Drummoyne terminus.
i). UTA sign. dish gutter.

ii). UTA sign. 2 minute lay-over.

iii). UTA sign. NO ENTRY.


Canterbury Station.
i). Broughton St, Canterbury Station.
J-stand bus stop has then word Dullwich [Hill] mispelt. It should be spelt Dulwich with a single ‘l’.


ii). Broughton St, Canterbury Station.
The 487 route pointer used to incorrectly say 478. It is possible to see two yellow stickers, ‘8’ and ‘7’respecitvely and consectively placed over the the original numerals ‘7’ and ‘8’.


Hurlstone Park.
i). School special bus stop signs, Floss Street, Hurlstone Park. Two signs, one on each side of the telegraph pole, they both appear to be of diferent ages.

ii). 2 x school special bus stop signs on Floss St, Hurlstone Park, one on iether side of the same telegraoph pole.


L38 CityLink.
i). L38 CityLink sticker. Great Nth Rd, Abbotsford terminus.
ii). L38 CityLink sticker. Great Nth Rd, Five Dock - outbound.

Sydney City CBD.
2 x 2000 Sydney Olympic Games city loop bus signs on iether side of George St, Wynyard.

000 - special route sign.
Special route pointer. Paine Street, Kogarah.

Arncliffe.
Route 473, Station St & Done St. Sign - ‘No left turn STA buses’,
This street is a right turn only for all vehicles. This sign was placed here before Done street was converted into a One Way traffic flow.
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Re: Outdated/incorrect signage/information

Postby Stu » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:53 am

Replaced or removed during 2010 and 2011.
The signage examples below were replaced or removed before I had a chance to take a photo. I used Google Maps to obtain photos of the examples of outdated signage at the locations.

423.
i). Illawarra Rd, Marrickville (opposite Recreation centre).
On route 423 inbound there is a sticker on this bus stop stating: ‘Reief Point’. The J-stand was replaced with a new Blade style bus stop was replaced in Nov 2011.

ii). Illawarra Rd & Homer St - outbound.
Section 07 sticker is on the wrong bus stop. The J-stand was replaced with a new Blade style bus stop was replaced in Nov 2011.

Ex 425 and 422.
Princes Hwy (near Smith), Tempe.
This last set down stop was updated mid 2011, the ex route 425 sticker has been replaced with route 418. this bus stop is used by Tempe only services, the reason for this last set down stop is because the bus had to merge across towards the right from lane 1 into lane 3 to make a right turn into Tempe Depot.

Ex 471.
Railway St (near Villiers St), Rockdlae - inbound.
Route pointer and bus stop. Both the bus stop and the route pointer went missing at an unknown date, possibly mid 2011.

Ex 499.
i). Liverpool Rd, Croydon (section 10) - inbound.
Ex 499 route sticker. This was changed to say 490, the J-Stand was replaced with a new Blade style bus stop in Nov 2011. The Google maps photo displays the J-stand with 'Zone' information, in 2010 this was removed as Myzone replced the older ticketing system, although the 499 route sticker remained on top of the J-stand.

ii). Burwood Rd & Claremon St - outbound.
Route pointer. This was changed to say 490 in Oct 2011. I heard a trainee driver complaining about this very same 499 route pointer after he operated a route 490, within 2 weeks the sign had a '0' placed over the '9' to read 490.

Ashfield Station.
Brown St, Ashfield Station underpass. Sign - ‘STA single deck buses only’.
I'm sure that this sign used to display ‘UTA’, someone replaced the 'U' with an 'S' which was pointless considering that the organisation known as the STA ha never operated double deck buses. I know the PTC did but did the UTA come into existence with dd buses in service? This sign went missing from the telegraph pole in January this year.

Ex routes 27 & 34.
Raw Sq, Strathfield Station (Southside).
Ex routes 27 & 34 route pointers.

Private bus operators.
Veolia.
i). Australis Ave, Wattle Grove. (between Wattle Grove Drv and Village Way, Wattle Grove).
Bus stop J-stands no longer in use due to route changes.

ii). Wattle Grove. (Huon Ave and Heathcote Rd, Wattle Grove).
Bus stop J-stands no longer in use due to route changes.

Busabout.
Former Neville’s Buslines bus stops on the Hume Hwy, Casula. (between M5 Motorway and the Hume Hwy / M5 Motorway / Camden Valley Way, Crossroads). The bus stop signs are located high up on telegraph poles.
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