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NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Aurora » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:12 pm

Stonesourscotty wrote:Dit9171 is missing a window and has been played over with what looks like steel it also has an exterior padlock covering the former window.

A short term remedy to get the carriage back in suitable condition for service.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:32 am

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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:54 pm

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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby rogf24 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:37 pm

These port-intermodal shuttle services seem like the perfect kind of freight service that would benefit from re-electrification.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Transtopic » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:12 pm

rogf24 wrote:These port-intermodal shuttle services seem like the perfect kind of freight service that would benefit from re-electrification.
I know the electrified freight lines extended into Enfield, but did they go further south to Marrickville and the Botany freight lines?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby matthewg » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:39 am

rogf24 wrote:These port-intermodal shuttle services seem like the perfect kind of freight service that would benefit from re-electrification.


This is predominately a container flow, isn't it?

They would need new locomotives with 'last mile' diesel, so they didn't need separate shunters to work the yard at either end.

Using straddle cranes or even 'reach stackers' under the wires isn't going to work all that well.

You could do things like back the train with the locomotive right up to the edge of the wire, etc, but the moment you introduce any operational complexity, the operation gets wiped out by road transport.

I can't see anyone wanting to put the money into both buying new dual-mode locomotives and the money needed to repair the electrification on the goods lines. As much as I would like to see more electric traction, I can't see it happening any time soon. These shuttles will be using 'exotic' fuel internal combustion locomotives (Bio-Diesel, CNG, hydrogen) before electrification is considered.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Frosty » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:54 am

Would it ever be feasible to have passenger rail along Port Botany freight line with a couple of intermediate stations ?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby tonyp » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:10 am

Frosty wrote:Would it ever be feasible to have passenger rail along Port Botany freight line with a couple of intermediate stations ?

Something along the lines of the old mixed goods perhaps? :wink:

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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Linto63 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:01 am

Transtopic wrote:I know the electrified freight lines extended into Enfield, but did they go further south to Marrickville and the Botany freight lines?
The Metropolitan Goods line was originally electrified from Enfield to Canterbury. It was extended to the junction at Dulwich Hill and onto White Bay in the 1960s and IIRC, to Marrickville and onto Tempe in the 1980s to allow electric coal trains to serve Port Kembla. Although not used for over 15 years, much of it remained intact until recently.

Frosty wrote:Would it ever be feasible to have passenger rail along Port Botany freight line with a couple of intermediate stations?
Accommodating passenger trains would severely interrupt the freight operations. A fair bit of the line also runs through areas with little residential development.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby sunnyyan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:00 pm

The goods line is now only electrified on the Down track between Campsie & Dulwich Hill and from the tunnel under the Bankstown line at Marrickville to where it joins with the Illawara local.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Stonesourscotty » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:39 am

T54 and another red plate Tangara on the airport line
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby idontknow556 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:16 am

The doors closing tone on A36 is a bit distorted. It has a higher pitch.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Frosty » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:05 pm

The Bourke St & Eastern side Botany Rd entrance is going to close temporarily from November 12 to April 2019. Due to the nearby Crown development.

*Edit* Forgot to add it's Green Square Station.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby boronia » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:25 pm

Green Square station presumably?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby moa999 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:05 pm

Definitely Green Square based on the streets and development name.

Now that the crane is gone on the one30 Hyde Park development, can't be long until that entrance to Museum reopens.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby mandonov » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:52 pm

Frosty wrote:The Bourke St & Eastern side Botany Rd entrance is going to close temporarily from November 12 to April 2019. Due to the nearby Crown development.

The entrance is being integrated into the podium of the development itself, with the exisiting footpath obstructing entrance being demolished.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Scott4570 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:41 am

Stonesourscotty wrote:T54 and another red plate Tangara on the airport line

Friday Afternoon, November 9, T54 and T11 circulating on Millennium Roster (Run 1), sighted at Redfern 1620 hours (Up direction) and 1643 hours (Down direction).
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Jurassic_Joke » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:50 pm

Any update on the progress of Redfern Station upgrade/modernisation of the Gibson St exit? That was promised for "late 2018" - sure hope its coming, we're already there with less than two months to go before the year is over
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:39 pm

T1 stopping at Newtown this weekend, I’m guessing because T2 is running at half the normal frequency.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby BanksfielderIdiot823 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:02 pm

andy_centralcoast wrote:T1 stopping at Newtown this weekend, I’m guessing because T2 is running at half the normal frequency.


Very likely has to do with this current weekend's bustitution from Fairfield to Glenfield/Campbelltown since trains going to/from Leppington have been rerouted via the East Hills line (through Redfern, not the Airport).

Not to mention that there is also trackwork on the clockwise City Circle, Bankstown Line's been corralled to Sydenham yet again along with the Liverpool branch also on trackwork, T1 to and from Penrith is running via the anti-clockwise City Circle and the T2 trains to and from Fairfield are using the intercity platforms.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby idontknow556 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Rare sight - Waratah A14 replacing a B series on the 14:21 T2 service to City Circle from Parramatta.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Andy » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:18 am

Spotted a 4 car H set running empty on the Bankstown line around midnight.
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby andy_centralcoast » Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:29 pm

The 8:45pm Central to Wyong continues as an empty train to Newcastle. Why wouldn’t this run as a passenger service?
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Re: NSW Railway Observations - July to December 2018

Postby Scott4570 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:24 am

andy_centralcoast wrote:The 8:45pm Central to Wyong continues as an empty train to Newcastle. Why wouldn’t this run as a passenger service?

The pattern of working, in the Weekday evening, is to run the "quarter to the hour" Central Coast Service to Wyong.
Those Train Sets normally return Empty to Gosford.

The 2045 hours service Central to Wyong, runs Empty Wyong to Newcastle Monday to Thursday Nights, but returns to Gosford Friday Night.
This would be due to Stabling arrangements being different Monday to Thursday Nights.
Empty working is not always guaranteed to run due to, Track Possessions, or Train Control, possibly requiring the Train set elsewhere.
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