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Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Swift » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:24 pm

Well, the elitists will be in a tizz over this one. Multinationals who have invested heavily in the UK will feel burnt now that it no longer entails EU market access.
Why is the world reeling so much?
Boris can use the catchcry putting the great back into Great Britain.

The UK will gain some control over the types wanting to make GB their home after the exit is completed.
The worry is the hysteric scramble to enter before the transition is complete.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:11 pm

But Scotland is threatening to leave the UK as a result of the decision.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby simonl » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:36 pm

I can't see anything good coming from this economically, only bad. Decades of reducing trade barriers now they want to put them up again?

Perhaps they will get an increased feeling of national pride though. Worth it?
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:42 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:But Scotland is threatening to leave the UK as a result of the decision.


Northern Ireland want out (again) as well.

I say let Scotland and N Ireland leave, especially N Ireland joining with the Republic of Ireland, to make things more convienient.

No doubt Germany and France will think about leaving as well now, and the whole EU will dissolve.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Fleet Lists » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:07 pm

It might sound convenient but I can not see Northern Ireland wanting to join up with the Irish Republic.

The Dutch are also believed to be considering a pull out option.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Frosty » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:38 pm

It's also funny actually at the moment much of London is angry at the result. Most people in London voted REMAIN. But the thing is London is always weird with elections. The thing there is such a disconnect between London and the rest of England whether it be the north, middle England or the seaside towns.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:15 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:It might sound convenient but I can not see Northern Ireland wanting to join up with the Irish Republic.


I have heard something about this happening - another referrendum possibly. Unfortunately I heard it on the TV, so no source (sorry). Still, the TV often lie, just look at the weater reports :P .

Fleet Lists wrote:The Dutch are also believed to be considering a pull out option.


Same with the French (again, can't source anywhere unfortunately).

Without a doubt Scotland will want another independence referrendum like you mentioned before.

Frosty wrote:It's also funny actually at the moment much of London is angry at the result. Most people in London voted REMAIN. But the thing is London is always weird with elections. The thing there is such a disconnect between London and the rest of England whether it be the north, middle England or the seaside towns.


Sounds a bit like country towns vs Cities here.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Shoudy Chen » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:17 pm

So if Britain leaves European Union, might call it Brexit! At least it's a portnemau word.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:26 pm

Shoudy Chen wrote:So if Britain leaves European Union, might call it Brexit! At least it's a portnemau word.


Britan have already left the EU, and it has been called "Brexit" for quite some time...
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Swift » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:36 pm

Frosty wrote:It's also funny actually at the moment much of London is angry at the result. Most people in London voted REMAIN. .

Apparently many who wanted to cast their vote in the last few hours couldn't due to public transport failure brought about by weather.
London, being very cosmopolitan, is more likely to have voters in favour of remaining than the rest of the country, with less interest in preserving traditions.
It also has more well off people who's personal interests are served by remaining in the EU.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby GazzaOak » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:29 am

An idea..... the scotts will have an refendum to split off from the UK and into the EU, then these people who don't like the brexit can move to scotland, likewise for the people who live in scotland who like the brexit can move to the UK..... problem solved.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Frosty » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:53 am

The difference here in is mostly suburban v inner city its like magical line like East V West in Sydney. I thought in the UK you can show up and get a provisional vote or something like what we have in Aus.

I think London should become independent of the UK as well.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby rogf24 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:44 am

Lt. Commander Data wrote:
Britan have already left the EU, and it has been called "Brexit" for quite some time...


They have voted to leave but they have not yet officially left. All EU laws still apply across the UK and British MEPs are still in office.

The referendum is also not legally binding so the government can choose not to take action. It's like the proposed gay marriage plebiscite here, it's not legally binding even though we can vote on it.

The UK will leave the EU 2 years after the trigger of Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon, this has not been triggered yet and it is unlikely to be triggered soon. Even some in the leave campaign want some breathing room before the trigger of Article 50. The 2 year date can be reduced or extended depending on how things go.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Fleet Lists » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:12 pm

If they were not too leave, I do not think Cameron would have resigned. And while they have not officially left the EU as yet, the officials of the EU have already indicated they want England out as soon as possible and well under two years if they are to leave.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby rogf24 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:06 pm

The EU has no power to trigger Article 50 on the UK's behalf. They can put sanctions on the UK to compel them to leave but that's unlikely. The only other power they have is rhetoric and that's what's going on now.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Shoudy Chen » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:45 pm

Brexit was very sad. At least it may be called Grexit (Great Britain's Exit)
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:51 pm

Shoudy Chen wrote:Brexit was very sad. At least it may be called Grexit (Great Britain's Exit)


I think Grexit is for Greece :lol:
Frexit for France.
Gexit for Germany.
Swexit for Sweeden.
Dexit for Denmark.
etc.
Until Bexit for Belgium.
Then the EU will be a thing of the past, fallen to the rise of nationalism. And what happened around 100 years ago (partly) due to the rise of nationalism? That's right, WWI, The Great War.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Shoudy Chen » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:57 pm

Lt. Commander Data wrote:
Shoudy Chen wrote:Brexit was very sad. At least it may be called Grexit (Great Britain's Exit)


I think Grexit is for Greece :lol:
Frexit for France.
Gexit for Germany.
Swexit for Sweeden.
Dexit for Denmark.
etc.
Until Bexit for Belgium.
Then the EU will be a thing of the past, fallen to the rise of nationalism. And what happened around 100 years ago (partly) due to the rise of nationalism? That's right, WWI, The Great War.

Try this website because this could be a lot funnier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ki ... ord_Brexit
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby eddy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:00 pm

I had heard that if all the young people had voted the vote would have gone the other way.

Might be good for young people here to make sure they vote on Saturday rather than complain about the result.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby rogf24 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:27 pm

Voting is compulsory here so that comment is kind of irrelevant eddy.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby boronia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:48 pm

Fleet Lists wrote:If they were not too leave, I do not think Cameron would have resigned. And while they have not officially left the EU as yet, the officials of the EU have already indicated they want England out as soon as possible and well under two years if they are to leave.

I don't think Cameron has actually resigned yet. Commentators are stating that he has only promised to.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby boronia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:08 pm

I've been watching a lot of "doom and gloom" commentators from London on TV recently. Nearly every report has managed to get a "Borismaster" into the background.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Swift » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:31 am

I have noticed that the news services gave grasped onto anything negative that's happened since the VOTE to leave, even implying that a loss to Iceland in a football match was a result of Brexit. :roll:
Plus they seem to throw in the label 'crisis' as though Brexit is some abomination.
If the result was the other way, the story would be yesterday's news and I guarantee there would not be any calls for a second vote.
The establishment has copped a rare upset and they don't like it.
This is not going to go through quietly.
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby boronia » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:44 am

I didn't like the result of SoO the other week. Can they play that round again? :roll:
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Re: Britain's Exit or Brexit.

Postby Lt. Commander Data » Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:10 pm

Turns out it might not happen after all. A ruling by the high court says that the parliament needs to approve it first.
http://www.theladbible.com/news/politics-uk-government-loses-brexit-court-battle-to-trigger-article-50-20161103
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