Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

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Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby 900 series » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:02 pm

An awful lot of changes occurring at this time! Mostly these are the northern suburbs changes advertised earlier - see http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=61568 - I will just document any variations to these plans here.

Bus services
Eastern
-Route 345 upgraded to a fully accessible route

Northern
-Route 386 (former 373) upgraded to a fully accessible route
-More trips on route 414, flat hourly service on Sundays
-Extra timing point on 413 and 414
-Separation of routes 413 and 414 - where are you smarTTrams?
-Route 381 departs Warwick station from stand 7
-Minor route change to route 441 to Whitfords - now follows the same route as 441 to Warwick
-New timing points on Northern 63
-No mention of late night rationalisation of route 449
-Route 449 now shown exclusively on Northern 81
-Route 449 departs Warwick station from stand 7
-Routes 461 & 468 upgraded to fully accessible routes
-Improved Alexander Drive peak hour ("as frequent as every 3 minutes"), evening shoulder (every 15 minutes to 8:30 pm), night time ('F' services converted to weekday services), and Saturday (every 15 minutes due to operation of 888) services
-Route 354 upgraded to a fully accessible route, operating more peak and one more Saturday service(s)
-Route 365 upgraded to a fully accessible route
-Route 370 upgraded to a fully accessible route, and with stand changes at both ends
-Route 372 upgraded to a fully accessible route
-Route 375 upgraded to a fully accessible route, operating every 2 hours
-More Saturday trips on route 376, and a new Sunday service
-One more trip each way on route 378
-Withdrawal of selected route 379 services, replaced with 376 and 378
-More early morning, late night and peak trips on route 870

Train services
-Introduction of 4am trains, and the retiming of 2:15am trains to 2am

Timetables
N57
N59
N62
N63
N64
N68
N72
N74
N75
N76
N81
N82

E93
E105

Fremantle Line
Joondalup Line
Midland Line

Note that there still could be stuff that I've missed...
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:33 am

Im pulling my hair out that I cant see the timetables! As long as all after hour services are covered (ie all trips) then ill be super happy :)
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby esperanceguy » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:23 pm

I for one can't see any point in a "late-night rationalisation" of route 449, given that it basically only runs between Warwick Grove & the Interchange...
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:15 am

Because there is no patronage? Its not that far from Beach road anyway...
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby Mr OC Benz » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:18 am

Late night rationalisation? It is currently only a bloody peak service!
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:34 am

The service is being extended to full time but will be rationalised to not run late at night. This is because of lack of patronage on the 457 currently - after hours 449.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby 900 series » Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:06 am

Mr OC Benz wrote:Late night rationalisation? It is currently only a bloody peak service!


Yeah, that did confuse me a bit. The mentioned it here was that the proposed changes announced 28th of July included

Transperth Website wrote:Route 449 – Warwick Station to Warwick Grove via Eglington Cr
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*Late evening services are proposed to be rationalised due to extremely poor patronage.

Source http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/ServiceUpdates/ServiceChanges/tabid/132/newsid568/2182/Default.aspx#Warwick


However this was not listed on the actual changes.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:05 pm

^^ But it says first that the 449 will run the 457 times but rationalised to not run late at night. If its not mentioned now then maybe they reconsidered?
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby 900 series » Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:39 pm

laptop15 wrote:^^ But it says first that the 449 will run the 457 times but rationalised to not run late at night. If its not mentioned now then maybe they reconsidered?


Good point. I guess there's only one way to find out for sure, and they're still not up on the website... (though to be fair it is the weekend)

By the way, the TP news item for 6/11/11 says:
Route 449 will operate additional weekday services
Route 449 will now operate on weekends
Route 449 will undergo a stand change at Warwick Station with services now departing Stand 7.


And for the 457
Route 457 will be withdrawn and predominently replaced with weeknight and weekend services on routes 447 and 449.
(emphasis added)

I'll go back and edit the actual changes when the timetables are up properly to supplement the News Desk.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby 900 series » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:27 pm

Timetables now up. Can't find N81 or N82 on the timetable search at the moment, but here are the links:
N81 & N82 are now linked to, but you have to search past 6th November to find them. Here are the links anyway...

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Northern%2081%2020111106.pdf
http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetablePDFs/Northern%2082%2020111106.pdf

PS. There's a rather big error on the N82 in the map department at the moment, and a 'sort by time' issue in the N57.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:36 pm

Over all its OK but my main thing is that there should still be later Sunday services all over (every route) as well as later weeknight and Saturday night services on 449, new 428, 365 and 376.

Its good to see though some routes (Alexander drive, Wanneroo road, 344 and the 428 with latter Sunday services introduced but what about the rest of them?

Any who still a decent improvment for now and I hope more soon...
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby Mr OC Benz » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:43 pm

The improvements to Alexander Dr, Wanneroo Rd, the 344 and 376/377 are very much welcomed. About time Alexander Dr got an improvement aswell as the 344. So we shall expect to see far less people quering about the 344 if it goes to Alexander Heights shops or not...
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:07 pm

Did you notice that the 60 will have improvments soon too because the 344 that leaves Morley currently at 9.40 has no connecting service?
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby Mr OC Benz » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:19 pm

Likewise with the 371 route, it is shown to leave at 10mins past the hour each hour on a Sunday. The 60 service connects with feeders at Morley departing at 40mins past the hour. So they probably have some type of plan to increase the 60 frequency to every 30 mins on Sundays hopefully. Very much needed.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby laptop15 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:28 pm

Yes I saw that - one can hope, I just wish later Sunday services everywhere :roll:
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby shinjiman » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:39 pm

There's some interesting on the Midline Line timetable.
On the 4am services on Saturday/Sunday mornings will skip McIver station.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby Mr OC Benz » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:45 pm

btw it's spelt "later"...

Yep was about to note that, you beat me to it. But I haven't removed what I've just posted after shinjiman.

Also interesting to note that the Midland Line 4am train does NOT stop at McIver. I can probably guess the reasons too.

So additional Friday and Saturday night train services depart at 0100, 0215 and 0400. Except for Joondalup Line which is 0115, 0215 and 0400. Also interesting to note than on a Friday night/Saturday morning, there is pretty much a 24 hour service on the Joondalup Line. Every 30mins until 0015, then 0115, 0215, 0400 then 0530. Midland Line is similar also, although every 30mins till 0000, then 0100, 0215, 0400 then 0530.
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Re: Timetable Changes @ 6/11/2011

Postby esperanceguy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:40 pm

I was a tad confuzzled not being able to find the 449 on the N64 timetable, but now I see it's on the new N81... and have yas noticed the inequality in the later Sunday evening services??? Last bus along Wanneroo Rd leaves WSBS at 8.30pm, yet out at Warwick the last services to wherever are an hour later... so next up should be Wanneroo Rd services running until at least 10pm from Perth, if not later than that... and then you'd need to equalize those with later runs on Beaufort St too :roll:
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