Proposed changes to Northern services

[ADX666]

Proposed changes to Northern bus services
Transperth is inviting the public to comment on proposed changes to routes 390, 391, 467 and 469 and the introduction of new services in Ashby, Landsdale and Tapping. These upgrades may also benefit passengers presently using routes 352, 376 and 468.

Suburbs affected by the proposed changes are:

■Ashby
■Banksia Grove
■Carramar
■Darch
■Greenwood
■Hocking
■Joondalup
■Landsdale
■Madeley
■Marangaroo
■Pearsall
■Tapping
■Wangara
■Wanneroo
■Warwick
■Woodvale.
Services are proposed to change as follows:

Route 352: Whitfords Station to Landsdale via Madeley – no changes
■There will be no changes to this service. Services will be monitored over the coming months to understand the impact due to the introduction of Route 450.

■Subject to further community consultation (which will be advertised locally and on the Transperth website), this route will be modified at a later stage.

■This route will now appear on the new Northern 80 timetable.

Route 390 and 391: Joondalup Station to Banksia Grove - frequency and operating hours upgrade
■Peak period frequency on both routes will improve from every 30 minutes to every 20 minutes. In the common sector of both routes, a bus will operate every 10 minutes in peak periods.

■Evening peak shoulder services will improve.

■New early morning and evening services with buses extended to operate as late as 9.30pm from Monday to Friday.

■Weekend service frequency on both routes will improve from 120 minutes to 60 minutes. In the common sector of both routes, a bus will operate every 30 minutes in peak periods.

■Routes 390 and 391 services will depart Joondalup Station from Stand 1.

■These routes will appear on the updated Northern 69 timetable.

New Route 450: Landsdale to Warwick Station via Kingsway City Shopping Centre
■New daily full time service operating between Landsdale and Warwick Station via Kingsway City Shopping Centre.

■Operates every 15 minutes in peak, every 30 minutes off peak and every 60 minutes on weekends.

■Provides residents of Madeley, Darch and Landsdale with a direct connection to the Kingsway City Shopping Centre and the Joondalup train Line at Warwick Station. Services will depart Warwick Station from Stand 6.

■This route will appear on the new Northern 80 timetable.

Route 467: Route extension, route change, frequency and operating hours upgrade Whitfords Station to Joondalup Station
■The 467 will be upgraded to a full time daily service with off peak services replacing the former 469 service through Wanneroo, Hocking and Pearsall.

■Peak period frequency will improve from every 20 to 30 minutes to every 10 to 15 minutes. Peak services will start earlier and run later.

■The service will be extended north to serve Ashby and Tapping on route to Joondalup Station. Residents in these areas will be served by regular public transport for the first time connected to rail at Joondalup and Whitfords and shopping / community facilities in the Wanneroo Town Centre and Joondalup City Centre. Services will depart Joondalup Station from Stand 3.

■The route will be modified to operate a more easterly path through Wanneroo to ensure service is retained for Belgrade Village. Services have been withdrawn from Civic Drive and Celestine Street, however residents in this area are a short distance from the higher frequency 468 service also operating between Whitfords Station and Joondalup Station.

■The route will also be modified to operate a more direct path through Woodvale operating along Woodvale Drive in lieu of Duffy Terrace. This route change will reduce delays incurred turning right onto Whitfords Avenue and speed up the journey across to Whitfords Station.

■This route will appear on the updated Northern 73 timetable.

Route 469: Whitfords Station to Wangara - Route truncation and rationalisation of operating hours
■The 469 will be truncated to only operate between Whitfords Station and Wangara. The route will no longer serve Pearsall, Hocking or Wanneroo as these areas will now be served by the upgraded and more direct 467 service.

■The service will operate Monday to Friday with a 30 minute peak service (previously operated 20 minute to 45 minutes in peak) and every 60 minutes during the day (similar to current level of service). Weekend services have been withdrawn due to extremely poor patronage; however weekend services are retained on Wanneroo Road with the 346 and 468 services.

■This route will appear on the updated Northern 73 timetable.

Please click here to download a map of the proposed routes.

Representatives from Transperth and Veolia Transdev will be available to discuss the proposed service changes as follows:

Thursday 2 June 2011
Lakeside Joondalup Shopping Centre
420 Joondalup Drive, Joondalup
From 2.00pm until 7.00pm

Kingsway City Shopping Centre
168 Wanneroo Road (Corner of Hepburn Avenue), Madeley
From 2.00pm until 7.00pm

Saturday 4 June 2011
Lakeside Joondalup Shopping Centre
420 Joondalup Drive, Joondalup
From 10.00am until 3.00pm

Wanneroo Central Shopping Centre
950 Wanneroo Road (Corner of Conlon Avenue), Wanneroo
From 9.00am until 1.00pm

Kingsway City Shopping Centre
168 Wanneroo Road (Corner of Hepburn Avenue), Madeley
From 2.00pm until 5.00pm

Click here to download a feedback form and email it to transperthplanning@pta.wa.gov.au to provide feedback on these proposed changes. Please note that you will not receive a reply to your submission.

For more information on these proposed changes, please call the Transperth InfoLine on 13 62 13 (TTY: 9428 1999, TIS: 13 14 50).


Posted on Monday, 23 May 2011

[laptop15]

Its a start but.... YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, WOHO!!!!! bout time!!!!!!!!!!!

[kp.nuts]

I used to live in Tapping and the PT was ridiculous (it's my parents fault for moving so far away from Perth...) It's good to see there are improvements (390 almost doubling its service!), and the new 467 would have gone almost straight past my house, would have been an excellent improvement. Especially for those people living in the south of Tapping that never really had PT to begin with.

These changes are probably partly fuelled by the extended/Sunday shopping hours in Joondalup too, Veolia Transdev would have seen that opportunity straight away.

So if this is up for consultation first, how long would it be before it's implemented?

[Mr OC Benz]

Give it about a month or so after the Public Consultations are finished and depending if any changes need to be made and how major etc in response to the public will determine how long I suppose. Probably July...

[Mr OC Benz]

The new Northern 69 timetable is available for download. http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/timetab ... 110703.pdf With the changes to be implemented by Veolia Transdev on the 03/07/2011.

[actually]

there will be changes to the 64 as well from the same date

[busdriver12]

there will be changes to the 64 as well from the same date

Any idea what those changes will be?

[actually]

the plan ATM is to renumber the 64 to 371. It will run until about 21:30 M-F with more services on a sunday. Weekday improvements to every 30 mins Morley-warwick with the inbetween short service Warwick-M/booka-warwick every 15 mins.

[esperanceguy]

If they're going to increase Sunday services on route 64 (hardly necessary IMHO seeing as nothing's open at Warwick, Mirrabooka or Morley), then the 363 will need jazzing up too!

[laptop15]

the plan ATM is to renumber the 64 to 371. It will run until about 21:30 M-F with more services on a sunday. Weekday improvements to every 30 mins Morley-warwick with the inbetween short service Warwick-M/booka-warwick every 15 mins.

Seems like a good upgrade

[Mr OC Benz]

Great! That means the Zoo will be open longer hours now!

[High Floor Bus]

Great! That means the Zoo will be open longer hours now!

With you on that one!
Just looking forward for the uninformed IP Q " is this & what happened to the 64 bus",some IP still have'nt got their heads around the 341/2/3/5 routes yet

[RomanRobinson601]

If they're going to increase Sunday services on route 64 (hardly necessary IMHO seeing as nothing's open at Warwick, Mirrabooka or Morley), then the 363 will need jazzing up too!

yer they should

[laptop15]

New timetables up all except the new N80. All 3/7

[Mr OC Benz]

Northern 80 is up if you search date after 03/07/11.

Ellenbrook changes are planned to be implemented late July early August.

[Leyland B21]

OMG at former route 64 (373) improvements. WOW

[Mr OC Benz]

OMG at former route 64 (373) improvements. WOW

Yeah, great. Especially some later services. Refer to the below.

Great! That means the Zoo will be open longer hours now!

[laptop15]

I still can not see why the 352 can terminate in Darch being the rail feeder for that area and the 450 extend into Landsdale propour and be the feeder there. There is no were for a bus to terminate at Kingsway/Rangeview road unless they built it in the next week!

[<smarTTrams>]

Point of clarification:

the plan ATM is to renumber the 64 to 371

But Leyland B21 misquoted the new route number for Route 64:

OMG at former route 64 (373) improvements. WOW

Route 373 (plus its variant 374 and after hours service 363) is a continuing route.

<smarTTrams> ... coming or going ... <smarTTrams>
Soon to be withdrawn after 7 years with the ATDB -- Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2004

[Leyland B21]

was a typo. Happens.

[ADX666]

Check all this sh.it out!

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service ... x#Wanneroo road

[busdriver12]

Check all this sh.it out!

http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Service ... x#Wanneroo road

I see a recurring theme in that the after hours combined services (e.g. 435 452 455 457) being deleted in favour of boosted number of trips of the services they used to be a combination of. I saw a similar proposal somewhere where the 85 and 95 being deleted in favour of extra services on the 81 84 91 and 92 routes. It will make life easier for passengers IMHO.

I wonder how long the proposed 387 will last as I recall there being a Balcatta Rd service quite some time ago that didn't last. I may be wrong...

[Leyland B21]

I wonder how long the proposed [/color]387 will last as I recall there being a Balcatta Rd service quite some time ago that didn't last. I may be wrong...

The last Balcatta Rd service i recall was former Limited Stop Route 358 from Creaney dve Kingsley - PCBS or WSBS as its known now. This service ran in the early to mid 80's. I cant recall a service along that stretch of road since but i maybe wrong.

[busdriver12]

The last Balcatta Rd service i recall was former Limited Stop Route 358 from Creaney dve Kingsley - PCBS or WSBS as its known now. This service ran in the early to mid 80's. I cant recall a service along that stretch of road since but i maybe wrong.

That sounds about right. I recall seeing it on timetables, but I lived in Girrawheen/Balga at the time so never got out that way

[busdriver12]

I was having a closer look at the new Northern 58 timetable today and noted it shows the 402 403 & 404 routes still going over the now defunct Roe St railway crossing. See below:

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