Timetable project of mine

[Mr OC Benz]

Huh? Since when did this happen? Last week I did see a Veolia bus displaying 104F Como and I was wondering what the hell was going on.

[busdriver12]

Huh? Since when did this happen? Last week I did see a Veolia bus displaying 104F Como and I was wondering what the hell was going on.

I think it happened recently as I too noticed a Veolia bus running a 104 a few weeks ago which prompted my research. Without knowing any more, I'd guess this was done in readiness for the Fremantle contract tendering process.

[Mr OC Benz]

It seems interesting considering that the whole 104 route doesn't even come into the Fremantle contract! If they were to follow this procedure, you'd think other major corridors would have the same operator too where they currently don't. (i.e. Wanneroo Rd)

[busdriver12]

It seems interesting considering that the whole 104 route doesn't even come into the Fremantle contract! If they were to follow this procedure, you'd think other major corridors would have the same operator too where they currently don't. (i.e. Wanneroo Rd)

Considering it's a subset of the 106 I find it quite believable just as the 105 is.

[UQB709]

Also, reference to Swan Transit (operator of Route 104) has been omitted from timetable W36

I did a little digging around before I went on holidays last week and found out the 104 is part of the Fremantle Contract. For some reason, Swan has been assigned this route (also it's predecessor 709) in the past, but this has now reverted back to Veolia's hands.

Historically this would all go back to the 103 at the start of contracting of services, when it operated Fremantle - Perth - Salter Point and was part of the Claremont-Belmont contract area. Swan rejigged some years ago all the South Perth services, one of the changes being the deletion of the 103 and its replacement by other routes.

The 709 (later 104) would have replaced the level of service previously provided by the 103 (in addition to the 106) along Canning Hwy - in making their service changes Swan would not have wished to lose those service kilometres (and thus revenue). Obviously with all the extra service kilometres now being pumped into the system, and the retendering of these contracts, the PTA have seized the opportunity to include the 104/105/106 under the one operator.

It seems interesting considering that the whole 104 route doesn't even come into the Fremantle contract! If they were to follow this procedure, you'd think other major corridors would have the same operator too where they currently don't. (i.e. Wanneroo Rd)

You could also ask why the Canning Bridge - Curtin Uni 100 and 101 services are part of the Canning contract, when they are clearly within the Belmont contract area. This is another historical anachronism, due to the 538 (Booragoon-Curtin) service originally being part of the Canning contract - this having been replaced by the 100/101. This was an even more odd route to be in Canning, as it didn't really travel into the Canning contract area at all, but traversed both Fremantle and Claremont-Belmont. I suspect the reason is that under MetroBus' timetables, the 538 and the 19X feeders to Booragoon (which were part of the Canning contract) were entwined, and to separate them into different contract areas would cost a peak bus or two. I don't have the old timetables at hand to check this, so it is purely a guess. Cleaning this up seems to have been an opportunity missed a couple of years ago when Canning was up for renewal.

[Leyland B21]

The only reason i can see 104 being in Swans hands previously is that it operated on the eastern side of Kwinana Fwy, predominantly sWAn territory. Although i can see in the same respect why it has reverted back to Veolia as it runs in conjunction with route 106. Technical scenario that can work either way for operational purposes. Interesting to see it switched operators though!!!

[busdriver12]

Latest version can be found here.

It is now in Excel 2007/2010 format. This is due to the amount of time it takes to compile and the lack of spare time I have nowadays which accounts for the number of service updates covered in this version. If you have been using Excel 2003 or earlier to view, download and install MS's free viewer.

There are a number of changes coming on 1st April and another version will appear then.

[busdriver12]

Latest version can be found here

It is dated 8/4/12 and includes all the changes made on 1/4/12. I've published it a couple of days early considering other commitments I have over Easter.

Happy Easter break everyone

[busdriver12]

Latest version can be found here. It's effective date is tomorrow (17/6/12).

Apart from the time changes in this update, I have also added into the Routes tab of the spreadsheet which contract area each route belongs to. This can be found by hovering your mouse over the route number. A cell comment will appear with the details of who operated and which contract are that route is in.

Something else you may find of interest is a file I created which lists all the route numbers by contract area. It is in MS Word 2010 format and can be found here. Hope you find it handy.

[busdriver12]

Latest version has been put up (address in my sig). Changes from the last couple of months included in this update.

This Sunday's changes will be uploaded on the weekend.

EDIT - I've just noticed that route 213 has been moved from SE14 to SE3 and this omission will be included in the new version which I will be uploading this weekend.

[busdriver12]

Updated as at 16/12/12. Have also amended my contract/routes document. Links to both can be found in my sig.

I'm also working on a timetable history tab which I'm hoping will unclutter the main timetable info tabs. Hopefully it'll be ready in time for all the 3rd Feb changes.

[busdriver12]

Latest version containing all changes of 3rd Feb included (quite a lot of them!).

There are 3 more changes in the next month i.e. 17/2/13 24/2/13 and 3/3/13. These minor changes will be added at the appropriate time.

Links to both the spreadsheet and Contract routes are in my sig.