Conductors on big buses

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My brother once said “you cannot have a policeman standing behind everybody” and he was right but as more people want to abuse their freedom there is an increase in security.

Will it ever get so bad on public transport that we need conductors once again on really big buses so the driver can pay attention to what he is doing.
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Why would it need "big buses"?
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Electronic fare collection and random enforcement by roving inspectors has replaced both the need for conductors and the need for drivers to be involved in revenue protection. Perhaps eddy hasn't caught up with that development yet.
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Fleet Lists wrote:Why would it need "big buses"?
In a standard bus the driver has a certain amount of control over 50 people but if you increase that to 150 he loses that control.
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Drivers have no control over ANY passengers.

These obnoxious people don't confine their travel to big buses. Already some routes in Sydney have security staff on board or in shadow vehicles.
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tonyp wrote:Electronic fare collection and random enforcement by roving inspectors has replaced both the need for conductors and the need for drivers to be involved in revenue protection. Perhaps eddy hasn't caught up with that development yet.
A conductor on a big bus could ensure orderly conduct, keep feet off seats, electronically check at random if a person has tapped before getting on and make cleaners redundant let alone eliminating vandalism.
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boronia wrote:Drivers have no control over ANY passengers.

These obnoxious people don't confine their travel to big buses. Already some routes in Sydney have security staff on board or in shadow vehicles.

Once when I was driving via Berkley the kids kept throwing rocks at the bus so we just changed the route down the next street but it was a bit unfortunate for the goodies.
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eddy wrote:
In a standard bus the driver has a certain amount of control over 50 people but if you increase that to 150 he loses that control.
Tram and train drivers would be permanently out of control.
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tonyp wrote:
eddy wrote:
In a standard bus the driver has a certain amount of control over 50 people but if you increase that to 150 he loses that control.
Tram and train drivers would be permanently out of control.
With the result that many people avoid them.

On the NWRL metro the couple of times I have used it you can see from front to back and there was a metro employee that stood there watching and you can see on the trams also.

On the DD a guard is on the train but it is not his job to confront unruly behavior so the cleaning and vandalism costs heaps.
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