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World's longest air sectors

Postby Roderick Smith » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:55 pm


Longest flight distances for airline planes: Which planes fly the furthest? 15.6.17.
album of 40 photos.
While the past decade has seen new generation aircraft in our skies that are more fuel efficient, built using composite materials that are more corrosion free and able to withstand higher cabin pressure, one thing that has barely changed is their operating range.
Current title holder for the longest legs of any aircraft goes to Boeing's 777-200LR, and that's far from new. In service with airlines since 2006, with a range of 17,395 kilometres, this is the aircraft Qatar Airways uses on its 14,535km service between Doha and Auckland, currently the world's longest non-stop flight, as does Air India on its Delhi-San Francisco flights. Emirates uses A380 superjumbos on its slightly shorter service between Dubai and Auckland.
In second place on the longest-flyer league tables is the Airbus A340-500, which holds a place in history. Although it has a shorter range than Boeing's 777-200LR, at 16,670km, Singapore Airlines used the A340-500 on its 16,468km flight between Singapore and Newark, which the airline operated between June 2004 and November 2013, still the record holder for the world's longest scheduled flight. [When new, an A340 flew nonstop London? - Avalon as a demonstration flight, arriving at the airshow].
Singapore Airlines' next-generation Airbus A350 has touched down in Australia for the first time.
Another long-range challenger waits in the wings. Next year will see the commercial debut of the Airbus A350-900ULR, which has a range of 17,964km, longer than any other commercial aircraft. This is the aircraft Singapore Airlines will operate on its resuscitated Singapore-New York flights, scheduled to begin in 2018 and once again taking the No.1 spot for world's longest flight.
Although the A350-900ULR can fly 569 kilometres further than Boeing's 777-200LR there may not be too many other airlines keen to take advantage of its range to introduce even longer non-stop flights. Apart from a few dubious routes such as Emirates much-delayed Dubai-Panama City flight, still awaiting regulatory approval, there are not too many more ultra long haul routes on the wish list that make sense.
Two that might are Melbourne and Sydney non-stop to London, and Alan Joyce has been pushing Boeing and Airbus for aircraft that can make that happen, perhaps the ultimate fist-pump moment for the Qantas CEO.
Sydney to London at 16,989 kilometres is slightly longer than Melbourne-London. If that service was to become a reality, Qantas would take the No.1 spot for the world's longest scheduled flight. Although the range of the A350-900ULR is almost 1000 kilometres greater than the Sydney-London distance, even that aircraft might just fall short on account of the minimum fuel requirements stipulated by the European Aviation Safety Authority, and every other aviation regulator. These effectively shrink the maximum operating range of an aircraft since they require enough fuel to be carried to allow for diversions, reserves and contingencies on top of the trip fuel.
Another problem, Qantas has not ordered any of the ultra long range Airbus A350-900ULRs. The airline is awaiting delivery of its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners, which will be the longest-range aircraft in the Qantas fleet. Currently in third place on the list of the world's longest-range aircraft, the Dreamliner is the aircraft that Qantas will be using to operate its non-stop 14,498km Perth–London service.
There is also the matter of pricing for longer flights. According to Qantas, "Year round return economy fares for the Perth-London routes start from $2270 but are expected to drop below $2000 during sale periods. Year-round return premium economy fares start from $4250 between Perth and London. Year-round return business fares start from $9725 between Perth and London."
Experience shows that passengers are prepared to put up with almost any discomfort if the fares are low enough, but these are not low fares. Qantas is banking on the proposition that passengers will pay a premium for the convenience of a non-stop, 17-hour flight from Australia to London.
If the airline was to apply the same logic to a non-stop service between east coast Australia and London, fares for those flights would be significantly higher than what other legacy carriers charge for a one-stop service on the same route.
Consider that an economy passenger travelling from Melbourne or Sydney on a non-stop flight to London would be sitting in the same seat for 20 hours. By contrast, that passenger could pay less for a 23-hour flight with a one-hour layover, or the possibility of a longer layover with some real recovery time in the sandwich.
When Singapore Airlines operated its earlier Singapore-Newark flights the airline had special lockers installed on the aircraft to store the corpses of any passengers who died en route. That was an 18-hour flight, but the configuration on that aircraft was initially a mix of executive economy and business class seats, switching to an all-business configuration for the final five years that the service operated.
On a 20-hour marathon from east coast Australia to London, in an economy seat, death might be the smart choice. [I have been on lots of train journeys which are longer, in a seat; likewise bus journeys].
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Re: World's longest air sectors

Postby system improver » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:00 pm

Comparing time in a seat in plane with time in a bus or train is like comparing dog years to human years. Thirteen hours in a plane is like thirteen days on a train. Buses stop for a get out - not wise at 30,000 feet.
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Qantas cabin crew...secrets...long-haul flight

Postby Roderick Smith » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:59 pm

Qantas cabin crew reveal the secrets of a long haul flight in new documentary
news.com.au June 1, 2017.
Cabin crew have spilt the beans on the things that airline passengers never see in a new documentary — including a secret “Harry Potter” bed and what Tom Cruise means to the flight crew.
The Secret Life Of The Long Haul Flight, a British documentary that airs in the UK on Friday, goes behind the scenes of a Qantas trip from London to Sydney — including a peek at the secret sleeping compartment below the passenger deck.
The Sun reports that the “secret sleepover joint” is a series of bunks — including a double — that are reached by steep stairs.
As it is close to the cargo hold, the area is so cold that those taking a rest have a hot water bottle and several blankets to keep them warm.
“Crew rest is the best thing on the aircraft,” crew member Sarah Kelly, who has been flying for five years, said.
“We might get three hours then we switch over.
“We do have one bunk which we call the Harry Potter bunk because it’s just under the stairs.
“I actually don’t mind it because it’s like someone is giving you a hug in there. It’s nice in there.”
One flight attendant crawling out of the ‘Harry Potter bunk’ in The Secret Life Of The Long Haul Flight. Image: Channel 5
Sarah’s colleague Beatrice added that crew members have to be woken up when it’s time to switch — and they don’t always like it.
“My favourite thing is watching the crew coming off a break and how unhappy they look,” she said.
“I feel sorry for any passengers who come across us in the journey from the rest area to the bathroom.”
Beatrice also revealed an odd code that helped the staff remember which hot drink was which.
“We have a little trick that we call Tom Cruise,” she said.
“When we talk about Tom Cruise on the aircraft we are not talking about the famous movie star — we are talking about tea and coffee. How do you put them on the trolley — tea then coffee. Tom Cruise.”
Tom Cruise means “tea then coffee” in flight attendant speak. Image: Channel 5
While most of the crew agreed that flying was their “dream job”, they said it wasn’t non-stop glamour.
Beatrice is seen donning plastic gloves for the half-hourly clean of the toilet.
“I’m just about to get stuck in to every cabin crew member’s favourite job — cleaning the toilet,” she said.
“People tell you it’s a glamorous job. I think they lie.
“So we do this every half an hour, just to check that everything is well and good in the toilet and there’s paper in there because no one likes to go to the toilet without paper.”
The Secret Life of a Long Haul Flight with Qantas is set to air this week in the UK on Channel 5.
Sarah, whose father is a pilot, said she loved meeting people and hearing their stories on board the plane.
“You do get a few weird requests, such as marriage proposals,” she added.
The documentary also revealed that every flight carries animals — and not just pets.
Philip Knowles, from animal relocation company JCS Livestock, said: “People are unaware there are literally half a dozen animals below and not just cats and dogs, but exotics as well, on breeding programs moving from zoo to zoo.
“The largest animal I have moved is an Asian one-horned Rhinoceros.”
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Re: World's longest air sectors

Postby stajourneyman » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:51 pm

Apparently, a year or so back when Qatar introduced nonstop flights from Doha to Sydney, they sprouted off about it being the world's longest nonstop flight.

Emirates, not wanting to be outdone, rushed a new Auckland to Dubai nonstop service, starting it a few days before the Qatar inaugural flight!
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