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Next generation mercedes Citaro

Postby newcastle_man_2 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:00 pm

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Postby tbc1983_ » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:31 pm

Cheers for the link.
MB have just smoothened the lines, given it a cute "grill" and very basic (and unsophisticated) dashboard. *spits on floor*
And what is this fetish for the colour grey? :?

Personally, they could've made the interior more inspiring! :cry:

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Postby newcastle_man_2 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:39 pm

It's the same dashboard as in the first genereation Citaros. SILVER is the colour Mercedes paints most new models whether they are cars or buses.
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Postby T1248 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:48 pm

Ok i agree about the colour scheme. But otherwise i think it looks really nice. Wouldn't mind seeing a few of them up here in QLD, although a RHD might suit us a little better. Pity BT are so beat up on getting Volgren, while they are good it gets a little boring after a while.

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Postby tbc1983_ » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:59 pm

newcastle_man_2 wrote:It's the same dashboard as in the first genereation Citaros. SILVER is the colour Mercedes paints most new models whether they are cars or buses.


Thanks for the heads up on the dashboard.
When I was talking about the grey/silver, I meant the interior...or maybe that's what you meant?
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Postby jb17kx » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:21 pm

Quite nice. Beats the CC CB60eII.
I especially like the artic...
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Postby member 1423 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:46 pm

A nice design all round. Dash is simple yet effective
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Postby Simes » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:50 pm

T1248 wrote:Ok i agree about the colour scheme. But otherwise i think it looks really nice. Wouldn't mind seeing a few of them up here in QLD, although a RHD might suit us a little better. Pity BT are so beat up on getting Volgren, while they are good it gets a little boring after a while.

Thanks for the link.

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Postby jb17kx » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:04 am

mbrowne1045 wrote:A nice design all round. Dash is simple yet effective

I feel that way too. It doesn't need to be drowning in buttons and instruments as some people say it does. The more "sohpisticated" the dash is the harder the bloody thing is to use...
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Postby newcastle_man_2 » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:45 am

I'd much prefer the OC500le dashboard, that way you can see everthing that is going on. Dunno about the steering wheels though. If Sydney ever bought some It would be better if they bought just the front cowel and built off an OC500le chassis.
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Postby Windy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:32 am

Having ridden the citaros, all I can say is that the interior is the same, the side panels not much different, the engine choices the same, the headlight styling is the same with the indicators turned upside down, and the rear windscreen and taillights slightly different. Same nasty product. I would much rather a CC or Volgren body over wobbly, untaut and flimsy crud which DC have come up with.
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Postby Windy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:57 am

tbc1983 wrote:Cheers for the link.
MB have just smoothened the lines, given it a cute "grill" and very basic (and unsophisticated) dashboard. *spits on floor*
And what is this fetish for the colour grey? :?

Personally, they could've made the interior more inspiring! :cry:

Cheers!


The dash board is simple and functional, I'd rather the steering wheel from the Citaro be used on the O.500LEs. the 2 red buttons are for the doors, one for the front, and one for the rear door(s). The screen will include the diagnostics. There is no tachometer.
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Postby PoweredByCNG » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:20 pm

Windy wrote:...the engine choices the same...


No they're not. The 185 kW (252 hp) version of the OM 457 hLA (12-litre) has been discontinued, as has the 205 kW (278 hp) version of the OM 906 hLA (6.4-litre). The OM 906 hLA has been updated to 211 kW (285 hp) and the OM 457 hLA remains available in 220 kW (299 hp) and 260 kW (354 hp) versions. The M 447 hLAG gas engine is still available, with 185 kW (252 hp) or 240 kW (326 hp).

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Postby Windy » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:37 pm

PoweredByCNG wrote:
Windy wrote:...the engine choices the same...


No they're not. The 185 kW (252 hp) version of the OM 457 hLA (12-litre) has been discontinued, as has the 205 kW (278 hp) version of the OM 906 hLA (6.4-litre). The OM 906 hLA has been updated to 211 kW (285 hp) and the OM 457 hLA remains available in 220 kW (299 hp) and 260 kW (354 hp) versions. The M 447 hLAG gas engine is still available, with 185 kW (252 hp) or 240 kW (326 hp), but a 400 hp rating has also been released for heavier applications.

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OK, so I didn't specify how the engines themselves are the same, what I should have said is that the engine choices are the same, only with different outputs.
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Postby Blue & White » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:29 pm

are the new sta mercs going to look like this
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Postby jb17kx » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:42 pm

Blue & White wrote:are the new sta mercs going to look like this

Almost no chance. It is much more probable that it will be the new CB60 Mk. II
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Postby Blue & White » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:22 pm

awww puke....that CB60 crap has to be the most boring design ever.
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Postby Windy » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:29 pm

But body wise, more solid than the Citaro body.
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Postby Stoney! » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:50 pm

PoweredByCNG wrote:
Windy wrote:...the engine choices the same...


No they're not. The 185 kW (252 hp) version of the OM 457 hLA (12-litre) has been discontinued, as has the 205 kW (278 hp) version of the OM 906 hLA (6.4-litre). The OM 906 hLA has been updated to 211 kW (285 hp) and the OM 457 hLA remains available in 220 kW (299 hp) and 260 kW (354 hp) versions. The M 447 hLAG gas engine is still available, with 185 kW (252 hp) or 240 kW (326 hp), but a 400 hp rating has also been released for heavier applications.

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It is also rumoured that they are using a variable Geometry Turbine, is it not?

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Postby jb17kx » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:59 pm

Windy wrote:But body wise, more solid than the Citaro body.

I actually hear quite a lot about the low quality of the Citaro from Eurogunzels.
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Postby Windy » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:02 pm

jb17kx wrote:
Windy wrote:But body wise, more solid than the Citaro body.

I actually hear quite a lot about the low quality of the Citaro from Eurogunzels.


Too much plastic, basically.
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Postby Stoney! » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:05 pm

Citaro Steering wheel is horrid, I don't have a picture but if anyone can post a pic of the O500 steering wheel that would be great, much more classy..... It also has little nodules on it that holds your shift bat!!!

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Postby member 1423 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:03 pm

Just for you Stoney! Pity about the body.

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