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Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Tas Bus Nut » Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:33 am

I've been laid up for a while and a few members have been getting itchy feet cause there hasn't been much about Tassie.
Well here are some old pics from my collections, this selection based around the famous LEYLAND NATIONAL machinery.
This collection will CERTAINLY please some particular board members that have a fascination with this grand old bus.
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Collection of 3 Leylands @ Franklin Square in Elizabeth St. Note the difference in livery
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#602 near new heading toward the Tasman Bridge near Government House
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#616 @ Geilston Bay CITY termini in Liverpool St
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Unknown Leyland turning out of Springfield Ave enroute to Hobart possibly on inward trip from
Springfield. Note NEW(current) Springfield ternimal under construction in background
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Unknown Leyland sitting @ Sandy Bay terminus
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#631 @ Strickland Ave terminus. Prior to this picture Rte.47 used to terminate @ Huon Road
NOT Strickland Ave, however there have been MANY changes and extensions over the years.
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#635 @ Elizabeth St/Davey St intersection enroute to Lenah Valley
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#658 @ Mornington Depot
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#642 @ Campbell St entrance to City Depot shortly after re-paint
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#627 @ Sandy Bay terminus. Popular swimming location since 1900s
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby stevegj52 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:57 am

Welcome back Tas Bus Nut.Thanks for the memories again, wasn't there a a joinery or saw mill on the springfield depot site? When Springfield interchange opened it wasnt popular as Hobart passengers were'nt used to changing buses and lots of confusion followed and late running and in thier usual way of doing things Metro kept making changes and caused more confusion !

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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby metro_tas » Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:29 pm

very nnice neil indeed interesting to see they didn't have the driver partitioned off in that pic of 602
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby stevegj52 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:44 pm

Had closer look at 602 and the driver may have had the blind raised or maybe no blind fitted on the bulkhead behind the driver.

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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Tas Bus Nut » Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:24 pm

stevegj52 wrote:Had closer look at 602 and the driver may have had the blind raised or maybe no blind fitted on the bulkhead behind the driver.

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That's what I was going to say, the blind would have been rolled up (I'd imagine). As for your 1st reply, YES there was the old IXL timber yard on that corner site.
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby stajourneyman » Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:01 pm

What a great looking vehicle. They really were before their time. Bearing in mind, of course, that at the same time that these vehicles entered service, Sydney was still taking delivery of those ugly feral bush pig Leopards!

Apparently their powerplant was a Leyland 510 turbo. Even that was a radical advancement, but unfortunately the engine was a dud.
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Swift » Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:26 pm

Nice photos Tas Bus Nut.They could do with some digital remastering though!

I particularly like that 7th shot with the white building in background.
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby metro_tas » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:28 pm

to me that looks like the coner of elizabeth and davey streets hydro building correct me if im wrong neil
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby stevegj52 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:11 pm

You would be correct Metro Tas.
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Tas Bus Nut » Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:36 pm

stevegj52 wrote:You would be correct Metro Tas.
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metro_tas wrote:to me that looks like the coner of elizabeth and davey streets hydro building correct me if im wrong neil

EXACTLY!! As mentioned at the bottom of the picture
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Peta mechanic. » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:36 am

It's a pity that these photos don't show up anymore. I remember when Nationals were brand new, I used to ride on the ones that Fred Bowman had in his St Marys (route 2) fleet and also remember Truck and Bus magazine doing an article on Dick Rowes' vehicles which had a different type of gearbox, G2 was the code used. Nationals were quite a remarkable vehicle in their time, being low floor vehicles all those years ago. If it wasn't for their inherent reliability problems they would have gone on to bring the Leyland company some huge sucesses.

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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby Swift » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:51 pm

It's not so much that they were unreliable ,it's a combibnation of peculiar mechanicals and electricals and a need to maintain them to the highest standard and to stick by the book in their settings and services.
I think not many bus companies could be bothered with the regimen in keeping them in tip top shape and preferred to move them on to a more willing owner such as Surfside who ran 40 of them.
Plus components were not easy to obtain,especially body panels which were more like a car's than a typical bus where you could fabricate replacement sections quite easily.
It was just too radical in concept and execution for your typical family bus operation to be bothered with.
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Re: Classic from the 70s (Leyland National) #1

Postby metro_tas » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:26 pm

i think the world needs another national, cheap, standard, reliable, and user friendly
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