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Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby Bovways » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:52 pm

Here's a one off in the Busways fleet, Volvo B10M MkIV unit 315, currently operating out of Blacktown depot:

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You can see the new-style destos too!

(Sorry for the quality, its a mobile phone pic)

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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby TOXANA » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:00 pm

Bovways wrote:You can see the new-style destos too!

and quite clearly ripped off from the style that STA uses
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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby Bovways » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:01 pm

TOXANA wrote:
Bovways wrote:You can see the new-style destos too!

and quite clearly ripped off from the style that STA uses


I never claimed I was original!
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Postby Windy » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:01 pm

Which is also allegedly ripped off MUNI in San Francisco :?
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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby TOXANA » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:03 pm

Bovways wrote:I never claimed I was original!

aint that the truth :lol:
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Postby TOXANA » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:05 pm

Windy wrote:Which is also allegedly ripped off MUNI in San Francisco :?

That was a joke at the expense Hii Hubert
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Postby Windy » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:10 pm

LOL, it MAY have been... :roll:
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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby parraeel » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:48 pm

Bovways wrote:Here's a one off in the Busways fleet, Volvo B10M MkIV unit 315, currently operating out of Blacktown depot:

You can see the new-style destos too!

(Sorry for the quality, its a mobile phone pic)

C :)


Yes, I have noticed the new-style destos. They look great, a lot better than the old ones. One thing, I reckon the 762 Bidwill should read "Bidwill via Emerton and Popondetta Road" not Carlisle Ave, that way people may be able to distinguish between the 761 and the 762.
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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby Bovways » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:20 pm

parraeel wrote:
Bovways wrote:Here's a one off in the Busways fleet, Volvo B10M MkIV unit 315, currently operating out of Blacktown depot:

You can see the new-style destos too!

(Sorry for the quality, its a mobile phone pic)

C :)


Yes, I have noticed the new-style destos. They look great, a lot better than the old ones. One thing, I reckon the 762 Bidwill should read "Bidwill via Emerton and Popondetta Road" not Carlisle Ave, that way people may be able to distinguish between the 761 and the 762.


I think it should be "via Emerton Shops". Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into it.

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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby Ken » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:20 pm

TOXANA wrote:and quite clearly ripped off from the style that STA uses

MoT are telling bus companies to use this style of programming on dot-matrix destos, so essentially it isn't ripping off another style, but doing what they're told.

The thing in my opinion that makes these type of destos look good or not is the selection of fonts. The Busways ones look very good thanks to the work by Bovways and Deano in doing the files for the various Busways depots.
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Postby R-C » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:57 pm

The complete CDC operation will be in this format soon!
So could we see HunterValley Destos in the Sydney Operations?!
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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby TOXANA » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:00 pm

Ken wrote:The Busways ones look very good thanks to the work by Bovways and Deano in doing the files for the various Busways depots.

Ahh but yes, they didn't win an award for their project like the person from STA did with his classic desto style that everyone is now copying including companies from interstate.
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Postby Swift » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:00 pm

Thats amazing to see that body on a Volvo and a midmounted one at that.

Thanks for the pic.
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Postby Windy » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:25 pm

Forest have a fair few of them with different headlights, and a rear door (a Forest obsession), instead of a centre door. There's a few of them at Metrolink as well, and one B10M Mk III at Premier Illawarra.
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Postby Swift » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:56 pm

What I meant was that body with that front on it.

There are stacks of B10Ms with that Custom Coaches bodyshape with various fronts but I have never seen that particular front on a B10M and certainly didn't know Busways run one.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:53 pm

It would be the only B10M around with Series 238 front. A rare 'one-off' in a comprehensively standardised fleet. There's a random MAN 18.230 with the same body - also at Blacktown.... It would be interesting to get the background as to how these to ended up in the fleet and with those bodies.
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Postby Bovways » Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:11 pm

Andrew wrote:It would be the only B10M around with Series 238 front. A rare 'one-off' in a comprehensively standardised fleet. There's a random MAN 18.230 with the same body - also at Blacktown.... It would be interesting to get the background as to how these to ended up in the fleet and with those bodies.


Yes, I never seem to be able to get a drive of the MAN! My understanding (from outside the company, just gunzel rumours) is they were built to Busways spec and used as long term demos. They did not lead to further orders but were purchased by the company.

Another example were the Merc 1418 Autos which Busways didn't retain, ending up at Fearnes. Having driven the similarly mechanical specced 1418s at Transit First, I can understand why they wouldn't have kept up with the pace on Busways route service... S L O W!

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Re: Busways Volvo B10M MkIV

Postby hubert » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:00 pm

Ken wrote:
TOXANA wrote:and quite clearly ripped off from the style that STA uses

MoT are telling bus companies to use this style of programming on dot-matrix destos, so essentially it isn't ripping off another style, but doing what they're told.

The thing in my opinion that makes these type of destos look good or not is the selection of fonts. The Busways ones look very good thanks to the work by Bovways and Deano in doing the files for the various Busways depots.


MoT is doing one thing right for once :shock:
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Postby hubert » Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:02 pm

MobitecICU wrote:The complete CDC operation will be in this format soon!
So could we see HunterValley Destos in the Sydney Operations?!


Would that be late 2007, or into 2008?

Some 610s had this style -- but after the Lane Cove Tunnel opened, the font for the numbers ("610") became some wonky font.

Like to see a return of the sans serif 13x9 font to the route numbers on what used to be Transit First, now Veolia routes. They've gotten most of the fonts right with the destinations, but the route fonts look terrible.
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Postby Windy » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:00 pm

Bovways wrote:
Andrew wrote:It would be the only B10M around with Series 238 front. A rare 'one-off' in a comprehensively standardised fleet. There's a random MAN 18.230 with the same body - also at Blacktown.... It would be interesting to get the background as to how these to ended up in the fleet and with those bodies.


Yes, I never seem to be able to get a drive of the MAN! My understanding (from outside the company, just gunzel rumours) is they were built to Busways spec and used as long term demos. They did not lead to further orders but were purchased by the company.

Another example were the Merc 1418 Autos which Busways didn't retain, ending up at Fearnes. Having driven the similarly mechanical specced 1418s at Transit First, I can understand why they wouldn't have kept up with the pace on Busways route service... S L O W!

C:)


I have heard that the 1418s with the 238 bodies were delivered as "gifts" for their large order of O.405s and these 1418s are unusual in that they have a ZF 5 speed auto in them. Apparently they went through quite a few diffs as well as being slow and non-standard.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:30 pm

Bovways wrote:My understanding (from outside the company, just gunzel rumours) is they were built to Busways spec and used as long term demos. They did not lead to further orders but were purchased by the company.

I can't recall the Volvo being used by any other company, as far as I know it was delivered new to Busways (you might recall my excitement the time we were in Schofields/Riverstone on a field trip at uni and I saw it there for the first time!).

Similarly with the MAN, I can't remember it being anywhere else before Busways, although I'm less sure about that one than the Volvo.

The 1418s were an experiment gone wrong perhaps - not sure they'd be "gifts" as such.... They didn't last all that long with Busways - and those of us who have driven 1418s can understand why. And with ZF instead of the revvy Allison - ugh....
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Postby Bovways » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:45 am

Andrew wrote:
Bovways wrote:My understanding (from outside the company, just gunzel rumours) is they were built to Busways spec and used as long term demos. They did not lead to further orders but were purchased by the company.

I can't recall the Volvo being used by any other company, as far as I know it was delivered new to Busways (you might recall my excitement the time we were in Schofields/Riverstone on a field trip at uni and I saw it there for the first time!).

Similarly with the MAN, I can't remember it being anywhere else before Busways, although I'm less sure about that one than the Volvo.

The 1418s were an experiment gone wrong perhaps - not sure they'd be "gifts" as such.... They didn't last all that long with Busways - and those of us who have driven 1418s can understand why. And with ZF instead of the revvy Allison - ugh....


Yeah I meant they were built for Busways spec as demos for Busways - that's what I got told years ago anyway.

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Postby Andrew » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:01 am

Ahh right - that makes more sense. Chassis supplier got the bodies built to tempt Busways into a large order, without success.
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Postby Daniel » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:05 am

Could that be the similar story to the MAN 18.310 Bustech VST that was built to Busways spec? (vynal seats, plain sliver poles). After being built it was put into serivce with Busways first.
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Postby Windy » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:20 am

Well, lets not forget that Westbus had a yellow Scania L94UB with a CB60 body, which later went to Interline.
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