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Semi -trailer bus now at Truck and Bus Museum Tempe

Postby Centralian » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:41 pm

Here are some shots of the White Scout car and semi trailer bus that are now on display at the Truck and Bus Museum Tempe as HCVA vehicle 015. I took the photo's in the yard of it's previous owner in Penrith when under restoration. The prime mover and trailer unit are not the original combination. I've also posted a shot of the trailer unit I took in mid to late '70's in it's previous guise as a 'caravan/mobile home' after being sold off by Pells Nambucca. It's owners at the time were having some mechanical problems just outside of Wollongong.

A detailed history of this vehicle can be found on the Truck and Bus Museum site under vehicle exhibits. I wouldn;t have said that the prime mover in the caravan shot (last photo) is a Leyland Comet, which Pell's are supposed to have fitted in 1972. Any thoughts?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/ ... ailer1.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/ ... ailer2.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/ ... ailer3.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/ ... ailer4.jpg

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Postby Flexity110 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:03 pm

Cool!! I wonder what a modern version would be like - perhaps a double decker, B-double hauled by a Mercedes Benz Actros or Scania 144. Would certainly mean that bus stations would have to be more like stations - they would be like Road Passenger Trains. On something that size you could even have Service Attendants.

Maybe a transcontinental coach company will cash in and go up against rail...
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Postby leopard1543 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:03 pm

What a beautiful old rare bus :!: :shock: A great candidate for restoration & preservation :!:
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Postby Centralian » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:33 pm

I think the modern equivalent of the semi trailer bus is the articulated bus. There was briefly an articulated coach in operation (in South Australia if I'm correct - Briscoe?) some 15 years ago with a Freighter body. Parramatta-Ryde in Sydney were a big operator of trailer buses in the 50's and 60's which is where their coach operation gained the name 'Trailer Tours'. All history now though.
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Postby GeoffreyHansen » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:02 pm

I thought that the Tempe museum already had a semi-trailer bus.

It would be great to have a passenger ride on one.

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Postby White Super Power » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:19 pm

Centralian wrote:I think the modern equivalent of the semi trailer bus is the articulated bus. There was briefly an articulated coach in operation (in South Australia if I'm correct - Briscoe?) some 15 years ago with a Freighter body. Parramatta-Ryde in Sydney were a big operator of trailer buses in the 50's and 60's which is where their coach operation gained the name 'Trailer Tours'. All history now though.


Pells MO 4466 at Nambucca Heads
http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-7385

Parra- Ryde mo 399 White MBA at Bobbin Head on
http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-4093
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Postby Red and Cream » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:03 pm

It's definately a Leyland Comet Centralian.
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SEMI TRAILER BUS AT MUSEUM

Postby D2S » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:41 pm

:D The White prime mover shown in the first couple of photos, what is the history behind that particular unit? I dont know how many of these units were built, but that is identical to the one which was operated in the Taree area by the Eggins family for many years. Somewhere, packed away, ( as I have just moved and 95% of my stuff is still packed up ), I have some black & white photos of the Eggins semi trailer bus, when it was being operated between Taree & Wingham, Taree & Old Bar Beach etc. This was back in the 50's.
Thanks for those photos. :)
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Postby boronia » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Kirklands had similar units (MBA body), but from memory this one was originally built to pull a mobile "home" for a travelling bookmaker or a horse float :?:
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Postby Centralian » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:44 pm

Here's a copy and paste direct from the Bus and Truck Museum exhibits web site page about this vehicle.

"1943 M3A1 WHITE SCOUT CAR (PRIME MOVER)
& 1947 SEMI TRAILER BUS

This vehicle is one of 123 semi-trailer type buses built and operated in Australia between 1939 and 1984. Most were constructed as specialised or one-off units. Only Motor Body Assemblers (M.B.A.) of Camperdown, N.S.W was successful in obtaining sufficient orders to warrant a standardised approach to the manufacture of the bodies.

Semi-trailer buses were a superb alternative, high capacity people mover, which became popular during the second world war when double deck chassis could not be obtained from Britain. While semi-trailers trucks went on to become highly developed for freight transport, it was the walk-through "bendy" articulated bus that subsequently became the passenger carrying alternative.

This prime mover body was built by M.B.A. around 1949 for a bookmaker and his family from the Riverina area in south west N.S.W. The cab was assembled on a White Scout Car M3A1 left hand drive chassis and was extended to accommodate four seats, a toilet and a wardrobe area. The vehicle was to be used as a private caravan. The chassis of the "Scout Car" was formerly left hand drive but was converted to right hand drive prior to the construction of the body .

When the outfit was discovered derelict at Murrurundi, N.S.W. in 1980, by a member, only the prime mover was salvageable. The member then located a semi trailer bus body equipped with 53 seats and coupled it to the prime mover in 1984.

The Semi-Trailer bus body is of timber frame construction and was built by Parramatta Bus Co., Northmead, N.S.W. in December 1947. An A.E.C. Matador was the original prime mover used to pull the trailer body. The complete semi-trailer bus was used on the firm's services from Parramatta to 'The Hills' district. The combination was registered m/o.352. It was deregistered in December 1952 and sold to George Clements, proprietor of Nambucca Heads Bus Service in 1954. It was soon resold to Mr Sinclair a Dundas operator. After extensive overhaul, it was reregistered m/o.002 in 1956. Mr Clements bought the unit again in 1957 and it became MO.4466, fleet No.1. In January 1962 it was sold with the company to Pell's Nambucca Bus Service. A Leyland Comet prime mover was substituted in 1972. When withdrawn in 1977, it was the last semi-trailer bus in service in N.S.W.

The present combination was restored and donated by the member to the Association.

SPECIFICATION
Engine:
JXD Hercules, six cylinder side valve petrol. bore 4", stroke 4.250", 320 C.I.D. 110 B.H.P. @ 2800 R.P.M.

Transmission:
Four speed constant mesh gearbox with a two speed transfer case and permanent four wheel drive. The differential is crown wheel and pinion on front and rear axles.

Brakes:
Vacuum assisted hydraulic foot brake and a transmission park brake. "
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Postby D2S » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:06 pm

Ok, thanks for that. Very interesting. :)
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Re: SEMI TRAILER BUS AT MUSEUM

Postby White Super Power » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:14 pm

D2S wrote::D The White prime mover shown in the first couple of photos, what is the history behind that particular unit? I dont know how many of these units were built, but that is identical to the one which was operated in the Taree area by the Eggins family for many years. Somewhere, packed away, ( as I have just moved and 95% of my stuff is still packed up ), I have some black & white photos of the Eggins semi trailer bus, when it was being operated between Taree & Wingham, Taree & Old Bar Beach etc. This was back in the 50's.
Thanks for those photos. :)

Eggins Taree MO 3276 White Trailer Bus
http://www.busaustralia.com/gallery/dis ... ?pos=-4978
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Postby marc506 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:35 pm

boronia wrote:Kirklands had similar units (MBA body), but from memory this one was originally built to pull a mobile "home" for a travelling bookmaker or a horse float :?:


The long defunct Quest Tours in Adelaide had a semi-trailer bus.

I never actually got to travel on so don't have any details about it.
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Postby boronia » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:00 pm

It must have heaven for the drivers of these vehicles, so well isolated from pesky passengers :P
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