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Postby RK215 » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:00 pm

Aha! But I suspect that the Sydney OPD2/1 Special, like the later Leeds PD2/14, was modified only to the extent necessary to accomodate the preselector gearbox, whereas the 7RT was much changed, with different chassis profile, different steering column angle and so on.

Evidently in the case of the 6RT and 7RT, the combination of the O.600 engine with vacuuum governor (and probably higher rotational inertia than the AEC 9.6) and fluid flywheel/preselector gearbox was not as "happy" as the AEC prototype; I think that DW commented somewhere in this forum that the same applied to the Sydney OPD2/1 Specials.

Yet the Auckland preselector Royal Tigers always struck me as having quite "snappy" gearshifts, a bit quicker than on the hydraulic Daimlers.

By the way, given that a handful of underwidth, preselector-fitted PD2's for Leeds, not even "proper" (i.e. OPD2) Titans, got a unique suffix number, not to mention multitudinous mentions in the litearure, Leyland really short-changed Sydney by not assigning a unique suffix to its preselector OPD2's. Maybe these should have been OPD2/5's?

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Postby Herbert » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:18 pm

Agreed. There are other examples of modified chassis that didn't rate a different code, let alone a (Spec) annotation (as a Perthite, I naturally think of our beloved Panthers with their rear-mounted radiators). Does it have something to do with a certain English psyche more concerned with "home" than "abroad", reflected in the old "O" prefix?

PS Had to slip 7RT in given a teenage fixation for a particular member of that class.
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Postby Centralian » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:19 pm

Anyone recall Kingswood Wreckers on the road between Penrith and Windsor. They too I recall had quite a range of DD's and other buses throughout their yard but were more out of the way. Don't think there's any buses left out there these days and their property seems much smaller.
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Postby mosman was » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:35 pm

The last dd was destroyed by fire in 1999 and then cut up. It was albion 1893. Out of the 21 Albion bought be the then Kingswood wreakers, only 9 were scraped with 1893 the last, all the rest were on sold by 1975. Of all the resales there is 4 known to exist 2002, 2040, 2102 and 2215.
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Postby Dave Wilson » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:57 pm

The first post war decker Leyland OPD1 1763 also went to Kingswood wreckers in 1968. It was resold the same year with OPD1 1777 to some Greek sharefarmers in the Coonamble district. Armed with this slender information, I managed to track these farmers down and subsequently the busesafter some years of searching. They had beed on- sold to another farmer in Walgett in the North West. However the owner who lived in town, would not let me look at them for some strange reason.Instead he went out to his property and brought the chassis plates back with him! At first I didn't know the identity of his two buses and not having a chassis list with me, was rather frustrated. To add to this irritation, there was a Telstra strike on and I couldn't ring contacts in Sydney to confirm the chassis numbers!! I drove on to Moree and from there managed to get a line through to Sydney. Sure enough the plates confirmed the existence of 1763 and 1777. It was a momentous discovery. Unfortunately I never did get to see them and they are now broken up.
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Postby leopard1543 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:37 am

Centralian wrote:Anyone recall Kingswood Wreckers on the road between Penrith and Windsor. They too I recall had quite a range of DD's and other buses throughout their yard but were more out of the way. Don't think there's any buses left out there these days and their property seems much smaller.


Yes a few Leyland OPD1's including some of the early post-war withdrawals did find their way to Kingswood. Nos. 1765, 1769, 1794, 1807, 1815, 1838, 1846, 1854 & 1870. Also Albion's 1861, 1863, 1893 (which was used as the office for many years), 1896 (which was resold but returned to Kingswood and then had its top deck removed), 1904, 1916, 2036 & 2213. All these deckers were stripped for parts (many by Chullora before sale to Kingswood). In the early 1970's 1794, 1838, 1846, 1854 & 1870 were scrapped and the remainder followed by being rolled over and burnt in early 1977. Albion 1893 however lasted a bit longer and was the last remaining decker to be broken up.
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Postby captainch » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:06 am

many years ago ,for part time work i drove the channel ten pro bus it was a opened top albion i think it was 2127 ex ron hodson motors was this correct??????????? thanks.
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Postby leopard1543 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:26 pm

captainch wrote:many years ago ,for part time work i drove the channel ten pro bus it was a opened top albion i think it was 2127 ex ron hodson motors was this correct??????????? thanks.


Yes "Captainch", that's correct. Albion SPCX19W x2127.
Rebuilt as an 'open-topper' for Ron Hodgson Motors and registered as RH858 in January, 1971 and then resold to Channel TEN10 in October, 1973 becoming GNY481.
2127 ended its days with Hanby of Narrandera as parts. It changed hands one more time though after that going to the late Bruce Pinnell for parts and was eventually broken up. :cry:
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Postby mosman was » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:49 pm

WRONG!!! Bruce never did get his hands on 2127. It was still there in 1990 when we wreaked 1925 for motor and box for 1860, he would not let us touch it as it was still property of the local ski group. It was complete with top deck missing at the bottom of the windows in channel 10 livery as it was photographed by Bob Lewis in 1979. When Mr Hanby died in the late 90's the bus was moved to the local tyre dealership in town. I tracked for Bruce and got follow up numbers but Bruce passed away before we could do a trip to locate it.As far as i know it is still in Narrandra.
P.S. the GNY.481 plate was still on the front spash panel under the radiator!
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Postby leopard1543 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:21 pm

mosman was wrote:WRONG!!! Bruce never did get his hands on 2127. It was still there in 1990................As far as i know it is still in Narrandra.


Thanks for that info on former 2127. The last entry I have is that Bruce was stripping it for parts (at Narrandera) in January, 1982. I have a photo of it at Narrandera in (early 1990?) still complete with radiator and a xRutty's SD is next to it. 2127 looks in a very poor condition.
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Postby captainch » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:55 pm

can anyone post a pic of 2127 in channel ten livert also it was reg chx010 while at ten,
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Postby Herbert » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:27 pm

Sorry to have to point this out, leopard1543, but it was RH858:

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Postby captainch » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:37 pm

thanks for pics of 2127 I have many fond memories driving the crew of number 96 around sydney. was the 2nd pic taken at the old tram muesum site at loftus?
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Postby leopard1543 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:50 pm

Herbert wrote:Sorry to have to point this out, leopard1543, but it was RH858:


That's OK, thanks, I must just be having one of those nights. :lol:
Also nice pics of x2127 & Daimler 2664 :!:
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Postby leopard1543 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:54 pm

captainch wrote:can anyone post a pic of 2127 in channel ten livert also it was reg chx010 while at ten,


I think I can help you there with that pic - will have a look in my collection. I also recall a rego CHX096. I think that this was on Leyland OPD2 DD: 2066. But knowing my recent spate of boo boos tonight you could be correct. :lol:
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Postby captainch » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:01 am

you may be right it was chx 010 then they ordered chx 096.
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Postby Herbert » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:02 am

captainch, there's no location for those two photos recorded in Bruce's notes.
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Postby captainch » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:07 am

the 2nd pic is taken at the old tram museum ent.

the b us thats in the shed was the bus which was to the royal national pk it was preserved.
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Postby mosman was » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:22 am

I have a 1979 slide of it in channel 10 livery and a photo I took of it in 1990 but i will get someone else to post it as I do not have a scaner.
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Postby mosman was » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:25 am

Bruce was after it for parts as he had contacted someone who had worked for Ron Hodgson and found out that 2127 had undergone a full mech. rebuild to the cost of over $6000 in 1971.
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Re: Bus Graveyard - ex DGT Daimlers

Postby busways266 » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:04 pm

Ex 2661 - Not looking to bad after all this time & presumably outdoors .
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Postby DiAmOnD T » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:53 pm

Busways 266

Is this a recent photo??
its noted as being up Northern NSW, still there or has it moved
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Postby busways266 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:03 pm

Took the pic myself about 6 weeks ago in the main street of Nimbin . about 300 m north of the pub . Looked in good order , but in that enviro and in the weather it wont be for long .
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Re: Bus Graveyard - ex DGT Daimlers

Postby Swift » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:24 pm

I never realised it had such fat hubs.Looks to be a similar design to the AEC flange hub ,except with a dome instead of a flat topped cone.Also more bolts.
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Postby Inspector » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:27 am

Any idea who owns 2661 at Nimbin?
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