Ballarat.?Geelong etc are to Melbourne what Gosford, Wollongong etc are to Sydney or the Sunshine Coast is to Brisbane, so all need to be included or excluded for s meaningful comparison. If adding all services within 150-170km from Melbourne then the figure goes from 2300 to about 2700 If includin...

Way way out. For example Dysons list counts 685 buses, however only about 100 of these are on Melbourne route service as they also have extensive Melbourne charter and buses in many locations in country Victoria and at Deniliquin in NSW. Likewise only a fraction of fleets like McKenzie and Martyr a...

I dunno how you got 4000 buses for Melbourne? But the route bus fleet is around 2300, so your figure was way off there.

Myrtone wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:59 pm And that raises the question of how frequent they are on the days they operate.

Would depend on location and size of the event but many state have such things. Though not sure if fair count them since not regular routes all year round

Plenty of coach services that only 1 trip a week or even some that only run once every second week thus be dozen of contenders for least frequent bus service

So now you want to be like the bus and duplicate it all way to Northland. I'm sure much important projects than Bell St tram line just fulfil a gunzels dream What do you mean "much important projects than Bell St tram line just fulfil a gunzels dream"? Well if you look at any outer suburb...

I realise that none of these reasons alone is enough of a reason to build this line, but I was thinking that list of reason together could justify it once the money is there to do it. Perhaps that new route could turn off Bell and run to Northland. So now you want to be like the bus and duplicate i...

Fleet Lists wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 am I have been advised that this has now been fixed so please advise if the problem still exists.

I am still getting message "accept security challenge" as of few just few minutes ago

There maybe some room for improvement to buses even if the tramline is built. Buses can be improved now and do not need wait for duplicated tram line to be built [*]Yet such connections were proposed before. There are dozen and dozen proposals over years doesn't mean all are need or or are the best...

I do not propose the route because it looks good on a map having a full grid A read of thread on Railpage suggest you do like see a map with full tram gird as you go on about as now have how should have least one East-West route and compare it to gird in south eastr I don't ignore buses but maybe a...

I have given three reasons: There are currently only north-south not east-west tram routes in the northern suburbs. The northern suburbs need better east-west transit The tracks for this route could also be a cross-town connection between north-south tram routes on opposite sides of Merri Creek. Ad...

Well, there are other reasons; The northern suburbs need better east-west transit and this line would help, its tracks would also double as a cross town connection between north-south tram routes. I'm not saying every suburb needs at least one tram train and one bus but the Northern suburbs (plural...

But currently there are only east-west bus services, not east-west tram services. Best to have at least one. Tracks for that route would double as a way to connect New Preston depot with routes 96, 1 & 8, and possibly route 19 and, in that case, also link Brunswick depot with routes 86 and 112....

Myrtone wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:17 pm How about at least one east-west tram service in the north?

How about no?

boronia wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:13 am Wasn't there once a Bell St Bus Service that was closed due to lack of patronage?

Bell St Bus Company sold out to Dysons in 2003 who still run 513 along Bell St

viccii wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:48 pm A list of routes would be great!

None. The closet bus route is 246 along Punt Rd

2MSJ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:14 am Is there a "culture" in Melbourne where private operators have multiple depots of each depot having their own set of routes, even though other routes may pass close by or share termini?

Depends on the operator. In case of Transdev and Ventura many routes are shared between depots

A lot of the 100 new buses being ordered have been transferred from North Fitzroy runs to operate route 903's (the early Gemilang batch). They definitely are smartbuses as I have seen photos of them having Smartbus equipment installed. A lot of the Ex-Melbourne Bus Link buses have also been operati...

Can't find data for MEDIAN (best measure for salaries) But Average driver wage = 34.44/hr https://au.indeed.com/salaries/Bus-Driver-Salaries,-Melbourne-VIC Not getting into debate about the strike but I will just point out rates actually around $25-26/hr. Only way get 34.44/hr is if your are either...

burrumbus wrote:Which depot Andy ??

Keysborough. Change over cars are used for southbound trips and was done so in the Ventura & Grenda days too. Northbound trips drivers just walk 2-3 minutes to the bus stop.

than to go to the expense of buying a car, the hassle and cost of servicing it separately to the buses and setting aside space in the depot for them, unless you are prepared to park them on the street, should parking be readily available that way. You can buy an awful lot of diesel fuel for the pri...

Opposition public transport spokesman David Davis accused the government of pushing a "socialist agenda reminiscent of a time before the Berlin Wall fell" by trying to buy the bus infrastructure. Well it is the People's Republic of Victoria at the moment after all. That model didn't work ...

It’s just as bad in the West. I live not far from Central West Plaza on Ashley St, making Route 220 my closest route. I can’t recall the amount of times I’ve waited for buses that never show up. Even just last week I waited for the 0809 Gardenvale which didn’t show up, nor did the 0817, 0825 or the...

Would it be wrong to assume the Victoria Park bus improvement is a dedicated shuttle service to Melbourne Uni & the Parkville medical precinct, as discussed in the recent Infrastructure Victoria 5 Year focus report and which would relieve overcrowding on the existing 200/207 Johnston St service...

Fair comment - that's rubbish unless justified by genuinely empty buses. How are the current arrangements with the split routes east and west of Sunshine going? The section west of Sunshine is not a quite route but is less busy than Sunshine - City section. The split has brought lot of benfits for ...